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Alfred Blue carried the ball 36 times

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vs the clowns today. Got me thinking, when was last time we had a rb carry the ball that many times? bettis? maybe all the way back to Franco?
 
wore em down and had Mallett throw all over the field. Good game plan.

But, I cant answer ur question. Am sure Bettis has done it....
 
Hopefully the Steelers win Monday night and the Texans can beat the Bengals next Sunday (in Houston).

If my math is right, B&G would be in at least a tie for the division lead.
 
Alfred Blue,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, he needed the money.
 
It comes back to haunt yaz, when you lose the games you shouldn't loose
 
Believe it or not the last time was Rashard Mendenhall on 11/28/2010 against the Bills he carried the ball 36 times for 151 yards and a TD.
 
People have said before that Ben Roethlisberger and all this passing game stuff has destroyed 40 years of Steelers football.
 
SteelVictory said:
People have said before that Ben Roethlisberger and all this passing game stuff has destroyed 40 years of Steelers football.
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No, the game has adapted... see lets break this down...
1. there was a time in football when the forward pass was illegal... all plays were run plays... all coaching was built around the run game.
2. When they added the forward pass, it was a highly risky thing to do... almost on par with going for it on 4th down. The fumble and coverage rules (or lack thereof) put this heavily in favor of the defense making a play. Lets also point out that blocking wasn't the same as it is today. It was almost impossible to keep some players off the QB. Compounding issues was that there was little skill in the whole pass and catch area, and that teams still played ironman so specialization was not really in play yet.
All of this led to coached Loathe to use it... there were far more bad things that could happen than good things...

3. Now we have:
-highly sophisticated pass blocking schemes and rules that basically allow most holding.
-rules that disallow many QB hits and several old methods for getting past blocks
-liberalized Pass interference and illegal contact rules that make interceptions way more difficult
-Inability to separate wr from the ball with heavy, high hits
-Sophisticated pass schemes that adapt to coverage
-heavy specialization that allows smaller guys whose only skill is quick, fast, shifty cutting to excel without getting exploded.

4. On top of this front 7's have gotten bigger and faster than ever... guys with skill sets like Gale sayers who were magnificent back in the day have been all but marginalized by the size/speed increase on defense. This has led to fewer high end rushers in the league these days.

5. All of this has leaned the game away from defensive rush first football... in the past the gameplan was to keep it close and take a few shots at the big play with your playmakers, then hold the game with the defense and run the clock out.
This is all but impossible in this day and age. If the refs call all the downfield stuff they can, its impossible to cover everyone in this format. Teams can score almost at will when they play aggressive football, as they do when down late in the game... its much harder to run out a clock against a bigger, faster front seven looking for the run.


This has led most everyone with a QB worth a damn to eschew the old school run first plan. Some teams still are too conservative because the coaching trees are still stocked with guys following the older and more conservative coaching philosophies.

the bottom line is you still have to have a good run game to keep teams honest, and because you will run into teams with a good secondary but a bad run defense that can be exploited, but to play a power run game is just suicide these days. There is a reason that a good big back like Blount has bounced around the league so much.

Sad but true, the old school football is basically dead
 
madinsomniac said:
No, the game has adapted... see lets break this down...
1. there was a time in football when the forward pass was illegal... all plays were run plays... all coaching was built around the run game.
2. When they added the forward pass, it was a highly risky thing to do... almost on par with going for it on 4th down. The fumble and coverage rules (or lack thereof) put this heavily in favor of the defense making a play. Lets also point out that blocking wasn't the same as it is today. It was almost impossible to keep some players off the QB. Compounding issues was that there was little skill in the whole pass and catch area, and that teams still played ironman so specialization was not really in play yet.
All of this led to coached Loathe to use it... there were far more bad things that could happen than good things...

3. Now we have:
-highly sophisticated pass blocking schemes and rules that basically allow most holding.
-rules that disallow many QB hits and several old methods for getting past blocks
-liberalized Pass interference and illegal contact rules that make interceptions way more difficult
-Inability to separate wr from the ball with heavy, high hits
-Sophisticated pass schemes that adapt to coverage
-heavy specialization that allows smaller guys whose only skill is quick, fast, shifty cutting to excel without getting exploded.

4. On top of this front 7's have gotten bigger and faster than ever... guys with skill sets like Gale sayers who were magnificent back in the day have been all but marginalized by the size/speed increase on defense. This has led to fewer high end rushers in the league these days.

5. All of this has leaned the game away from defensive rush first football... in the past the gameplan was to keep it close and take a few shots at the big play with your playmakers, then hold the game with the defense and run the clock out.
This is all but impossible in this day and age. If the refs call all the downfield stuff they can, its impossible to cover everyone in this format. Teams can score almost at will when they play aggressive football, as they do when down late in the game... its much harder to run out a clock against a bigger, faster front seven looking for the run.


This has led most everyone with a QB worth a damn to eschew the old school run first plan. Some teams still are too conservative because the coaching trees are still stocked with guys following the older and more conservative coaching philosophies.

the bottom line is you still have to have a good run game to keep teams honest, and because you will run into teams with a good secondary but a bad run defense that can be exploited, but to play a power run game is just suicide these days. There is a reason that a good big back like Blount has bounced around the league so much.

Sad but true, the old school football is basically dead
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Still the old school option read running game coupled with great defence Seahags crushed the high flying Manning and the Broncos (and everyone else) last year. I still think great defence beats high powered offence almost every time.
 
steelcan58 said:
Still the old school option read running game coupled with great defence Seahags crushed the high flying Manning and the Broncos (and everyone else) last year. I still think great defence beats high powered offence almost every time.
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Outlier. The seahawks got away with a ton in the secondary all last year. that has been cracked down hard on this year. look at the stats for the teams that won over the past decade... even traditionally strong run teams like the Steelers and giants won with a pass first game and a shoddy run game.
 
I mean lets look at the Baltimore/ San fran game two years ago... Baltimore won that because Flacco had a deal with the devil that postseason. San fran had a 182-93 yard rushing advantage and the better defense going in. The ravens D was atrocious. they won it because whil san fran rushed away the first half and most of the third quarter, gaining little points, Flacco built up a lead and when they went conservative San fran opened things up and almost had the huge comeback...

Ignoring the direction the league has been moving in because a seattle team with an exceptional defense confused the most choke prone QB of the last two decades into throwing 2 bad interceptions is beside the point. That seattle team had 135 yards rushing, 45 off of end arounds to Harvin and 26 more to The Qb taking off... their primary back rushed 15 timews for a 2.8 yards per carry average. their secondary back ran 9 times for 2.6. They didn't power their way to the win there... they won it on safeties and kick returns...

look at the play by play again... it isn't the game people remember... manning drove down the field and choked the ball away all first half
 
kind of weird..bell over 30 carries tonight. strange omen post
 
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