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Who is your "no, just no" guy in the 1st round?

Aussie_Steeler said:
Iheanachor is a right tackle, not left. At left tackle he will be a huge project - Iheanachor was one of the players I was thinking of when I made this comment earlier in the thread:
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I get it but he's young, raw and toolsie which the Steelers have drafted in the past. He's one of the few that I'd like to see try at LT out of this class. Or we could try Troy at LT but I'd like to see what Max could do there.
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
could possibly draft a right tackle and move Fautanu Back to Left Tackle
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1. Do you really want to risk weakening the right side off the Oline in attempting to strengthen the left side?
2. Fautanu played left tackle for left handed quarterbacks in college. Whilst the left handed QB might not make a difference to some of the basic requirements of Left Tackle play, it does make a difference to run/pass blocking emphasis and the pass protection arc.

As a side note Fautanu played right tackle in high school, so basically his entire career he has protected the quarterback's front side, not the blindside.
 
Slaine said:
I get it but he's young, raw and toolsie which the Steelers have drafted in the past. He's one of the few that I'd like to see try at LT out of this class. Or we could try Troy at LT but I'd like to see what Max could do there.
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And how often has young, raw and toolsie worked out in the first two rounds for the Steelers in the past (for any position, not just offensive tackle)? It certainly didn't when the Steelers used a second round pick on Mike Adams. Brod Jones met that description too - and the whole reason we're now talking a left tackle in the first round, is that even before the injury, most of this forum weren't convinced Jones is the future at LT.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
And how often has young, raw and toolsie worked out in the first two rounds for the Steelers in the past (for any position, not just offensive tackle)? It certainly didn't when the Steelers used a second round pick on Mike Adams. Brod Jones met that description too - and the whole reason we're now talking a left tackle in the first round, is that even before the injury, most of this forum weren't convinced Jones is the future at LT.
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Not saying it's right but that's what the Steelers have gambled on in the past.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
Iheanachor is a right tackle, not left. At left tackle he will be a huge project - Iheanachor was one of the players I was thinking of when I made this comment earlier in the thread:
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Thank heaven we don't have to care if he can play C anymore.
 
topseed said:
"Trouble catching the ball"? The drops with KC are a concern, but a bit overblown, I think.

In 2025:
Concepcion had 7 drops with 61 catches on 101 targets.
DK Metcalf had 5 drops with 59 catches on 99 targets.
Not too dissimilar.
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Yeah, but two points:
1. DK's drops are an issue
2. Concepcion is not likely to drop fewer passes in the NFL with better coverage and larger CB's and safeties
 
Steeltime said:
Yeah, but two points:
1. DK's drops are an issue
2. Concepcion is not likely to drop fewer passes in the NFL with better coverage and larger CB's and safeties
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For me DK is the reason the team should think about staying clear of a player with similar issues. DK at times has irritated the majority of the fanbase with ill timed drops. Imagine having a double dose of that. For me I prefer someone who can get open and hold onto the ball. Not someone we hope will improve in that area. **** in one hand hope in the other.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
1. Do you really want to risk weakening the right side off the Oline in attempting to strengthen the left side?
2. Fautanu played left tackle for left handed quarterbacks in college. Whilst the left handed QB might not make a difference to some of the basic requirements of Left Tackle play, it does make a difference to run/pass blocking emphasis and the pass protection arc.

As a side note Fautanu played right tackle in high school, so basically his entire career he has protected the quarterback's front side, not the blindside.
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I don't want anything but the best tackle at the position. I'm GUESSING at what actions the steelers could take
 
topseed said:
LOL. I don't know where you're getting 6 out of 8 years (McCarthy's obviously been a head coach for much longer that that), and I don't give a shlt how you want to interpret who PFR might list as "starters." For example: In 2010, somebody named Korey Hall is listed as starting for the Green Bay Packers, at fullback. He had zero yards rushing and 1 catch....for the entire season. That same year, James Jones had 50 catches for 679 yards and 5 touchdowns, operating as WR3 behind Driver and Jennings. Are you going to tell me that they were a 21 personnel team that year and not 11? Again, LOL. Talk about insanity.

McCarthy runs a west coast offense. He ran 11 personnel 76% of the time during his last season in Dallas. Yeah, he drafted Cobb way down in the second round...when he already had three solid receivers. The Steelers don't. But tell me again about what you read and misinterpreted on pro-football-reference. It's so compelling.
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I'm saying that for 6 to 8 of the seasons he coached, the depth chart listed only 2 WRs as starters. I know he's coached longer. His last year in Dallas he ran 11 personnel with 3rd round pick Jalen Tolbert, why do you think he needs a first round pick to run 11 personnel?

We're not drafting a WR in the first round, which is a good thing.
 
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Aussie_Steeler said:
Iheanachor is a right tackle, not left. At left tackle he will be a huge project - Iheanachor was one of the players I was thinking of when I made this comment earlier in the thread:
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I don't know how I'd feel about taking another project at tackle given the process we saw with Jones. I know it's a different coaching staff, but I'd still have reservations.
 
Steeltime said:
Yeah, but two points:
1. DK's drops are an issue
2. Concepcion is not likely to drop fewer passes in the NFL with better coverage and larger CB's and safeties
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Let me add point 3

3. DK’s selfish play, dumbassery and douchebaggery are an issue

Can we please steer away from these traits this draft.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Let me add point 3

3. DK’s selfish play, dumbassery and douchebaggery are an issue

Can we please steer away from these traits this draft.
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I agree..
I believe that’s possible if we stay away from wide receiver in the first or second rounds..
If anything, it will increase our likelihood of not picking a diva..
 
ExUSAF said:
Isn't it interesting how, last year, everyone seemed to be talking about the QB-rich draft next year - now it seems we're looking at 2027 draft class the same way.
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The difference is that you have two quarterbacks at the top of that list (Manning and Moore) who could have come out in 2026, but should only improve with another year of starting experience against the SEC and Big Ten.

I find it interesting that people believe that since 2026 was a disappointment, 2027 will automatically be the same.
 
Steeltime said:
Yeah, but two points:
1. DK's drops are an issue
2. Concepcion is not likely to drop fewer passes in the NFL with better coverage and larger CB's and safeties
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1) Correct.
2) Concepcion is a junior in college. He's 21 years old. He can improve his hands.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
I'm saying that for 6 to 8 of the seasons he coached, the depth chart listed only 2 WRs as starters. I know he's coached longer. His last year in Dallas he ran 11 personnel with 3rd round pick Jalen Tolbert, why do you think he needs a first round pick to run 11 personnel?

We're not drafting a WR in the first round, which is a good thing.
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Well, by God, if the PFR depth chart listed only two wide receivers as starters, despite the evidence I provided you earlier, than it must be true.

Tolbert had 49 catches for 610 yards and 7 touchdowns as McCarthy's WR3 that year. That's solid production. That's why his tendency is to run 11-personnel, and that's why drafting a guy like Concepcion wouldn't be preposterous. Roman Wilson isn't smelling those types of numbers. He's proven nothing.

It's clear we disagree. We'll see next Thursday what their approach will be.
 
topseed said:
The difference is that you have two quarterbacks at the top of that list (Manning and Moore) who could have come out in 2026, but should only improve with another year of starting experience against the SEC and Big Ten.

I find it interesting that people believe that since 2026 was a disappointment, 2027 will automatically be the same.
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It's not expecting disappointment...I've seen draft analysts already start to express there'll be upwards of 8 QBs in the first round. If there are 4-5 that is an extremely deep draft. As of today, only Manning and Moore are first-round prospects. The rest need to develop quite a bit to move into that territory.
 
topseed said:
Well, by God, if the PFR depth chart listed only two wide receivers as starters, despite the evidence I provided you earlier, than it must be true.

Tolbert had 49 catches for 610 yards and 7 touchdowns as McCarthy's WR3 that year. That's solid production. That's why his tendency is to run 11-personnel, and that's why drafting a guy like Concepcion wouldn't be preposterous. Roman Wilson isn't smelling those types of numbers. He's proven nothing.

It's clear we disagree. We'll see next Thursday what their approach will be.
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The Cowboys threw 637 passes in 2024, the Steelers threw 550 last year, a crap ton at or behind the LOS.

I'm fine with KC, just not in the first. That's a Terrelle Edmunds/Artie Burns type pick.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
The Steelers have a ton of ammo and those 2027 picks are going to be worth $$$ to teams. I'm not sure there are any guys worth trading up for once the top 8-10 are off the board.
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With the 12 picks In certain we have enough to jump up to grab Caleb Downs; but I know they won't do it...
 
Steeltime said:
I have not seen Concepcion much at all. You made a very good point, however. If he has trouble catching the ball, he is not a 1st round guy. A guy with tools who is still working on catching the ball is a 3rd or 4th round guy, like Lance.
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Germie Bernard...
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Assuming Tate is gone, Tyson and Concepcion are the two WRs who could develop into a good WR1 who can create separation and scare a defense. For Tyson it's the injury issues and the hands for Concepcion. The Steelers need some YAC guys on offense.
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Germie Bernard
 
SteelerFan448 said:
It's not expecting disappointment...I've seen draft analysts already start to express there'll be upwards of 8 QBs in the first round. If there are 4-5 that is an extremely deep draft. As of today, only Manning and Moore are first-round prospects. The rest need to develop quite a bit to move into that territory.
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Hmmmmm... methinks Chambliss will definitely be going in round 1 next year.
 
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