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Rondale Moore

Depression is very deep and dangerous. People should not be afraid to reach out or seek help if needed. If you have thoughts of hurting yourself and or others that would trigger the need to reach out comment.

There isn’t a person I wouldn’t help in need. Nobody excluded.
 
RIP Rondale, GOD speed

We don't know the specifics, but if possible, it is always better to speak out, even if just a whisper.




Salute the nation
 
This is absolutely tragic. Just know that all things good and bad pass. Each day is a gift and a new opportunity. People care about you,even those who don't know you.

My best therapy in life has been physical training combined with sunshine and fresh air. Best medicine ever.
 
Good lord what is happening to the young men of this generation.
Firstly, male suicide has always been an issue; secondly, as to what is happening to the young men of this generation - that is probably a topic for the politics section of this board.
 
Good lord what is happening to the young men of this generation.
Young men in general are being told their natural tendencies are wrong. The natural tendencies to protect, to be aggressive and to be competitive to name a few. Add to that the fact that young men aren't made to feel the consequences of their mistakes. Too many young people are protected from struggle. Men on TV shows are shown as being basically incompetent. There are other things, of course, but I think those are biggies. I am so thankful I came of age before this nonsense.
 
Firstly, male suicide has always been an issue; secondly, as to what is happening to the young men of this generation - that is probably a topic for the politics section of this board.
Define an issue. Yes men have always committed suicide. But not to this degree. Both my sons lost close friends and almost everyone I know with sons at this age group struggle to one degree or another. Diver is correct. Its societal not political.
 
And indisputable. The causes are up for debate but not the fact. Its numbers snd you see it all around. Inconvenient truth.
The causes are up for debate. And it is really not good to blame just one thing. It's many things. But the conspiracy part of me really wonders if this whole technology push all the time is part of a scheme to make young men more docile. I'm out there walking streams fishing and I never see young men. It's mostly guys over 40, if I see anyone. Same with hunting when walking the fields, mostly guys over 40. When I was in high school and college every job I had was outdoors and physical. Too many of these young guys run away from that it seems to play video games. It's not a healthy world because young guys need that physical element.

Another thing is faith. We desperately need to as a society come back to God. One of the important components of Christianity is the idea of serving, not being so focused on self. I think that is a big problem for young people with all the social media. And I'm not judging, because if I came of age in this era I'd probably be the same way.

Of course there is yet another consideration. Maybe I'm just old.
 
This news `just hurts the heart. Whatever you are going through, please reach out. Like others have said, I always have an ear to bend to anyone who needs to talk.

Mental health is a crisis in this country, and it knows no political, social, or societal boundaries. I'm currently fund raising through The Distinguished Gentleman's ride in May for Men's mental health. If you'd like to donate, PM me and I'll send you the link. My son's childhood friend, who was a second son to us, was lost due to mental health issues. He and I spoke often about his mental health, and he was speaking to me openly about some very tough issues and then one day, something pushed him over the edge, and I'll never know what and I'll never have an answer for "why".

For any Motorcycle riders who would like to join in the effort, please go here and register. This will be my first time and from what I've viewed on Youtube, it looks like a great time. https://www.gentlemansride.com/
 
The causes are up for debate. And it is really not good to blame just one thing. It's many things. But the conspiracy part of me really wonders if this whole technology push all the time is part of a scheme to make young men more docile. I'm out there walking streams fishing and I never see young men. It's mostly guys over 40, if I see anyone. Same with hunting when walking the fields, mostly guys over 40. When I was in high school and college every job I had was outdoors and physical. Too many of these young guys run away from that it seems to play video games. It's not a healthy world because young guys need that physical element.

Another thing is faith. We desperately need to as a society come back to God. One of the important components of Christianity is the idea of serving, not being so focused on self. I think that is a big problem for young people with all the social media. And I'm not judging, because if I came of age in this era I'd probably be the same way.

Of course there is yet another consideration. Maybe I'm just old.

You've touched on some truths for sure. The development of the smartphone and the eventual takeover of social media in young people's lives has drastically changed the dynamics of personal relationships. Long gone are the days of face-to-face interaction where skills in communication, debate, etc are built. Now, some social media post goes "viral" and a young person's entire social circle is aware of his/her issue. The "issue" is now magnified beyond what they are able to cope with.

Parents today also rely too much on "therapeutic" solutions that likely include meds. Overmedication is a real thing. Anxiety, depression, etc cannot be remedied solely with meds. An overmedicated youngster is more likely to choose a final solution.

Then there was Covid. You can never convince me that there is NOT a clear point of demarcation regarding young people's social lives during and post-Covid. Not only were "social distancing" and school closures (and the loneliness/solitude that came with all that) damaging to young people's social growth, it brought with it a reliance on the aforementioned social media sites to further isolate them and bring their anxiety and depression to new heights.
 
The causes are up for debate. And it is really not good to blame just one thing. It's many things. But the conspiracy part of me really wonders if this whole technology push all the time is part of a scheme to make young men more docile. I'm out there walking streams fishing and I never see young men. It's mostly guys over 40, if I see anyone. Same with hunting when walking the fields, mostly guys over 40. When I was in high school and college every job I had was outdoors and physical. Too many of these young guys run away from that it seems to play video games. It's not a healthy world because young guys need that physical element.

Another thing is faith. We desperately need to as a society come back to God. One of the important components of Christianity is the idea of serving, not being so focused on self. I think that is a big problem for young people with all the social media. And I'm not judging, because if I came of age in this era I'd probably be the same way.

Of course there is yet another consideration. Maybe I'm just old.
Real good post. One of the best Ive read in a long time. Over comfort, technological dependence and disconnect from the wild are definitely connections to this crisis. I know of a kid. Football star. Girlfriend is a 12 out of 10. Like a girl you'd crawl across glass to date at that age. Still has major unhappiness. Not sure if its same down there but the legal puff puff here is botanist strong. That ain't helping a 21 year old mind. That's for damn sure.
 
Another thing is faith. We desperately need to as a society come back to God. One of the important components of Christianity is the idea of serving, not being so focused on self. I think that is a big problem for young people with all the social media. And I'm not judging, because if I came of age in this era I'd probably be the same way.

Of course there is yet another consideration. Maybe I'm just old.
I agree totally. I also want to go out on a limb here and say that the dependence on "mental health" has merit, but it's not the end all it is thought to be.

"Mental Health" assumes that we know what that target is, but the target moves all the time, so I tend to doubt it. Sorry, but I think that the universals of faith are more legit. They don't move.

Just my take on one of the many problems here.
 
there are just no words. If ANYONE needs to talk about anything if you're down in the dumps and just need to shoot the **** with some one I am a call away. DM me and I will give you my cell number. and i mean anyone the **** that happens on this board as far as politics or personal beliefs matters not.
 
there are just no words. If ANYONE needs to talk about anything if you're down in the dumps and just need to shoot the **** with some one I am a call away. DM me and I will give you my cell number. and i mean anyone the **** that happens on this board as far as politics or personal beliefs matters not.
It's something how it can sneak up on you. I consider myself a pretty positive, active guy. At the beginning of February I had my shoulder replaced, I've been off work, and it is cutting into a lot of the stuff that I liike to do. I can feel myself getting edgy, because on some level I feel kind of useless. I consider myself healthy mentally and still feel it a bit. And what I'm dealing with is minor compared to so many people. What about those guys who don't have faith or family or friends to fall back on?
 
if someone is feeling this way.. i doubt they can make a rational decision to phone a friend let alone a stranger.
sometimes it's easier to talk to a stranger than it is a family member or a friend. there's no judgement or embarrassment, just the ability to be completely honest. Friends and family just want to fix you, sometimes you just need someone to listen to you.

You never know who God will put in your life that can help with a different perspective.
 
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