The Coronavirus thread

[Tibs]

Why are you here if we're all deplorable people?

Because I'm a masochist. I enjoy being shunned, insulted, abused, shoved to the ground, locked out, left shivering in the cold. I actually pay money to keep this site going, to advance my own pain, suffering and misery. It's the best!

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Why are you here if we're all deplorable people?

Because he is good at copy and paste links. He likey that.

 

[Steelr4evr]

I know the media and leftist establishment want to bury this, but it's not going to happen with the American people. Janice Dean (one of the sweetest people on television who is a working mom with MS) had her husband's parents die unnecessarily due to Cuomo's criminal negligence. And then she gets **** on by the leftist mob for expressing her outrage about it when they're acting like he's a magician.

He's a magician alright, made thousands of people disappear in the blink of an eye.

You know what NJ&NY did? Killed a **** ton more people than everyone else. Or maybe they're fudging numbers because they sure don't match up well with everyone else.

 

[Steeltime]

Oh, and Tibs, Trump is not a doctor, never claimed to be a doctor. Why the hell have you NEVER said an unkind word, let alone accuse of being responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths, about actual DOCTORS who said:

Less than two months ago, WH task force member Dr Anthony Fauci said face masks were not necessary and could put people at risk because masks cause people to touch their faces more.

http://sandrarose.com/2020/05/video-dr-fauci-explains-why-face-masks-arent-necessary/

Surgeon general: Data doesn't back up wearing masks in public amid coronavirus pandemic

https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus

WHO stands by recommendation to not wear masks if you are not sick or not caring for someone who is sick
Tue March 31, 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

Dr. Fauci, the US Surgeon General, and the WHO (the corrupt health money-sieve, not the band) all say masks not necessary, don't wear masks, blah, blah? No problem.

Trump says he does not think he needs to wear a mask, does not have authority to order Americans to wear masks because Constitution?

 

[Tibs]

My point is if you had an interest in people wearing masks to save lives you wouldn't mock them for possibly changing their minds and wearing them. But I guess displaying your smugness is more important.

You're right. After a frustrating, demoralizing six months of watching Trump be dismissive and flaunt ignorance re COVID, I'm glad he's changing his tune and being more rational. And yes, I hope folks begin adhering to these mitigation measures, wherever they may be, whatever their political persuasion is. I want people - you, me and everyone else - to get through this ordeal safely.

I'll try to lessen my urge to 'display my smugness' best I can, as tough as that may be. In the end, we all want the same thing. For this fubar pandemic to be over so we can get on with our lives.

 

[Tibs]

You will have 4 more unless they can find a way to force mail in voting across the board. Then we will probably have a war.

That's the spirit!

 

[Steeltime]

You're right. After a frustrating, demoralizing six months of watching Trump be dismissive and flaunt ignorance re COVID,

What recommendation from Fauci or Birx did he NOT follow? Let me help: None.

Dr. Fauci: President Trump Followed Health Recommendations Every Time They Were Made…

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...th-recommendations-every-time-they-were-made/

Dr. Fauci Says Trump Has Listened to His Recommendations and He's Not Being Forced to Say So

Fauci says Trump listened to health experts' initial advice to shutdown the U.S. economy and call for social distancing guidelines

By Sean Neumann April 13, 2020

https://people.com/politics/dr-fauc...-his-recommendations-not-being-forced-to-say/

So your entire narrative - the entire ******* thing, where Trump is responsible for the Chinese flu because China, and Trump killed thousands by following what medical experts recommended - is ludicrous.

You really are in line for the "ElftardPoloLiar Rodney King Award" at this rate.

 

[Tibs]

You're also not seeing that an extremely large percentage of people here ARE wearing masks - even if they don't want to. either to be compliant or to not get fined.

Hopefully with Trump finally turning the corner on wearing masks, we'll see much less of this type of pure insanity. It's highly likely I'll be accused of being 'smug' for posting this, but I will anyway.

 

[Supersteeler]

Hopefully with Trump finally turning the corner on wearing masks, we'll see much less of this type of pure insanity. It's highly likely I'll be accused of being 'smug' for posting this, but I will anyway.

Trump never criticized wearing masks and never said people shouldn't wear them. He said it was a personal choice and to wear one if you thought it was appropriate. From day one.

 

[Tibs]

Trump never criticized wearing masks and never said people shouldn't wear them. He said it was a personal choice and to wear one if you thought it was appropriate. From day one.

It's like some of you live in a bubble of disinformation, or simply a lack of information.

Trump’s dumbfounding refusal to encourage wearing masks
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...dumbfounding-refusal-encourage-wearing-masks/

As confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States spike to a record high — and these three states in particular deal with the worst of the increases — GOP politicians are offering a sterner message when it comes to wearing masks.

That message remains conspicuously and wholly absent, though, from President Trump’s commentary on the matter.

Here’s a rundown of what he has said since early April, with key parts in bold:

• “Just about everybody has a face mask on. They’ve learned about face masks — the good and the bad, by the way. It’s not a one-sided thing, believe it or not.”
• On the example he could set by wearing a mask: “Well, I think it sets an example. I think it sets an example both ways.”
• Of whether he’d recommend masks at his rallies: “I recommend people do what they want. I’m okay with that. If people want to wear masks, I think that’s great. I won’t be. Not as a protest but I don’t feel that I’m in danger.”
• “You know, there was a time when people thought it was worse wearing a mask. I let people make up their own decision.”
• “The job the governor of Florida has done, it’s incredible, the numbers they’re doing. You’ve got to open it up, and you do social distancing and you wear masks if you want and you do things — you can do a lot of things.”
• On whether he would wear a mask in Michigan: “A lot of people have asked me that question. I want to get our country back to normal. I want to normalize.”
• “I wore one in this back area, but I didn’t want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.”
• “Should I speak in a mask? You’re going to have to tell me if that’s politically correct. I don’t know. If it is, I’ll speak in a mask.”
• “In light of these studies, the CDC is advising the use of nonmedical cloth face covering as an additional voluntary public health measure. So it’s voluntary; you don’t have to do it. They suggested for a period of time. But this is voluntary. I don’t think I’m going to be doing it.”
• “So with the masks, it’s going to be, really, a voluntary thing. You can do it. You don’t have to do it. I’m choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it, and that’s okay. It may be good. Probably will. They’re making a recommendation. It’s only a recommendation. It’s voluntary.”
• “It’s very simple to do. I won’t be doing it personally. It’s a recommendation. Okay?”

None of these come anywhere close to the kinds of messages above from the GOP politicians in hard-hit states. There is no “you should wear a mask” — much less a “wear a damn mask.” And in fact, Trump has more often than not gone out of his way to emphasize the voluntary nature of the guidelines, and he has increasingly suggested in recent weeks that masks may not even work. The combined message he has sent is abundantly clear: This isn’t really that important.

As I said earlier, better late than never. At least he's starting to come around, kudos to him for that.

 

[Supersteeler]

It's like some of you live in a bubble of disinformation, or simply a lack of information.

Trump’s dumbfounding refusal to encourage wearing masks
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...dumbfounding-refusal-encourage-wearing-masks/





As I said earlier, better late than never. At least he's starting to come around, kudos to him for that.

Was that.....by any chance....back when Dr Fauci and all the other medical experts were saying masks don't do any good, don't wear them??????

 

[ZonaBurgh]

what do you make of Trump saying it’s going to get worse before it gets better?

It's a virus.....

And the darkest hour is just before dawn.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Was that.....by any chance....back when Dr Fauci and all the other medical experts were saying masks don't do any good, don't wear them??????

It doesn’t matter. But DT said.

 

[Tibs]

That's an average of 689 deaths daily in July. Not increasing to 1,000. In fact, the absolute data shows a decrease in deaths in the past 5 days. We topped 1,000 once in July. Once. We topped 1,000 deaths FOUR times in June.

Over one thousand Americans died from the coronavirus, today.

May they all rest in peace.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U.S. records 1,000 deaths in one day from COVID-19, California passes 400,000 cases <a href="https://t.co/W60YL72iDa">https://t.co/W60YL72iDa</a> <a href="https://t.co/RwH5zo2f8j">pic.twitter.com/RwH5zo2f8j</a></p>— Reuters (@Reuters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1285719973336436736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

 

[Steeltime]

Tibs' 500th Covid post and still waiting for ONE, *******, WORD critical of the nation that started the virus, probably brewed the virus, made sure it was spread worldwide, lied about the virus, and should be nuked for what they did.

Not going to happen, I get it.

China hate Orange Man? China good; Orange Man bad. Lick China's mass-murdering butt, accuse Orange Man of killing thousands.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Tibs' 500th Covid post and still waiting for ONE, *******, WORD critical of the nation that started the virus, probably brewed the virus, made sure it was spread worldwide, lied about the virus, and should be nuked for what they did.

Not going to happen, I get it.

China hate Orange Man? China good; Orange Man bad. Lick China's mass-murdering butt, accuse Orange Man of killing thousands.

But trump

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Over one thousand Americans died from the coronavirus, today.

May they all rest in peace.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U.S. records 1,000 deaths in one day from COVID-19, California passes 400,000 cases <a href="https://t.co/W60YL72iDa">https://t.co/W60YL72iDa</a> <a href="https://t.co/RwH5zo2f8j">pic.twitter.com/RwH5zo2f8j</a></p>— Reuters (@Reuters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1285719973336436736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Liberal run from the top down California? that one? Shocking!

 

[Yinzerlyn]

Glad to know Tibs gives a **** about all the fun deaths and general uptick in the homicide rate since the lockdowns started...guess they don’t deserve a Rest In Peace.

 

[Steelworth]

I'll try to lessen my urge to 'display my smugness' best I can

You're not off to a good start. You just can't not be a smug douchebag. I can probably count more fingers on one hand than I can your posts where you weren't a smug, delusional or smart *** acting adolescent. That's quite the feat for 10,000+ posts.

In the end, we all want the same thing. For this fubar pandemic to be over so we can get on with our lives.

What's going on with your life there in Hungary? Last I looked, you have not even had 5,000 recorded cases and just under 600 deaths for a population of 10 million. That's not a pandemic in your little part of the world, that's a common cold season.

And sometimes you don't seem like you want this pandemic to be over, at least in Orange Man Bad country. How long has it been since you visited your family over here in the United States anyways?

 

[Steelworth]

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">U.S. records 1,000 deaths in one day from COVID-19, California passes 400,000 cases <a href="https://t.co/W60YL72iDa">https://t.co/W60YL72iDa</a> <a href="https://t.co/RwH5zo2f8j">pic.twitter.com/RwH5zo2f8j</a></p>— Reuters (@Reuters) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1285719973336436736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

That's so weird re: California, the majority of those cases are in Los Angeles and Orange Counties (right next to one another) where mass protests occurred multiple times. Not even the cesspool that is San Francisco has an issue (no mass protests to my knowledge) and the same with San Diego county.

Maybe just an incredible coincidence.

 

[Steelr4evr]

That's the spirit!

Not really much for you to worry about. You've lived in Hungaria probably longer than you lived here.

I don't see you bitching about our little communist groups running around with impunity in some west coast states.


Some things are worth fighting for and if need be, I will. Guaranteed!

The end justifies the means with your little group of thugs that have the backing of your so called democrat party.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Got my second Covid-19 customer this week. 93 years old and lived in a nursing home, also had COPD. The first was back in May, 95 years old and lived in a nursing home.

 

[SteelChip]

Was that.....by any chance....back when Dr Fauci and all the other medical experts were saying masks don't do any good, don't wear them??????

Yeah, about them masks

For all, you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid ). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.

I am OSHA 30 and HAZWOPER 40 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.

• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).

• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non-sterile environment.”

• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.

-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.

*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.

This was sent to me without links so I can't validate the content but as far as I'm concerned, common sense doesn't always need it.

Oh wait....here's a solution.

 

[jitter77]

Yeah, about them masks

For all, you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid ). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.




*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense. Don’t drink the kool-aid.

This was sent to me without links so I can't validate the content but as far as I'm concerned, common sense doesn't always need it.

Oh wait....here's a solution.

The mask part had already been proven to be debunked and mostly false. I believe i even posted it in this forum but i guess the more you repeat false info the truer it gets??

 

[Superman]

It's like some of you live in a bubble of disinformation, or simply a lack of information.

the ******* hypocrisy you're dripping in...

who wanted to close travel from China?
who was calling for people to attend parades and Chinatown?
who made a point to address this in the State of the Union speech?
who ripped up that speech?