I'm not sure what these stats prove,

[VaSteelerFan]

And you're right. You don't set up a massive successful cheating operation, get caught and then just drop it. You look for other ways to cheat especially since the NFL slapped their wrists both times they got caught. The SB wins make the loss of draft picks, short term suspensions, etc worth it for them no doubt.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they've started listening to play calls in opponents radio signals, etc.

 

[Omar10213245]

 

[slashsteel]

And for every fan that enables it, you will continue to see it happen.

Read the article none of that is conspiracy.

I question fans that it doesn't effect.

They took at least two SBs from our team.

That is significant.

 

[stillwright]

 

[Omar10213245]

Lol yeah ok

 

[Omar10213245]

And for every fan that enables it, you will continue to see it happen.

Read the article none of that is conspiracy.

I question fans that it doesn't effect.

They took at least two SBs from our team.

That is significant.

How do you know the Steelers were winning those Superbowl games those years?

This whole thread smacks of jealous toddler syndrome, its pathetic

 

[Steelr4evr]

Good read as it reminds you how serious this cheating is. To say it had no impact is ASSinine and to say they still aren't benefiting from such cheating falls under the same description .

Thanbks for the post & reminder.




Salute the nation

What's funny is the people who try to minimize it as if the NFL is some pure majestic steed of goodness.

Typical spin media moves as well. Minimize and change the subject. Everyone is just crazy,jealous or both.

Funny how those steeler tapes got destroyed without the public seeing what was on them. Oh they're so harmful they just had to be destroyed.

It's called protecting the shield. Everyone loses if the integrity of the game is called into question and you have actual proof in film.

All of those playoff games when our players talked about them calling out all of our plays before they even ran them.

I remember billiecheat running off one of our athletic trainers who just wanted to help an injured player of his like he was the devil. Tucker was probably wearing a wire.

Magic halftime adjustments my ***. Only stupid ******* buy into this bullshit. It's ******* comical.

I know bullshit when I see it and I have a really good memory.

I find it hard to belief anyone with half a brain who's actually paid attention the last 18 years could support the pats******


I've had respect for accomplishments of the packers,raiders,cowboys,broncos,rats, but these guys I got nothing at all.


You can stick that jealous toddler syndrome up your *** too. I'm sorry if you believe in santa,i don't.

Only lawyers and politicians minimize bad behavior and spin it.

 

[Omar10213245]

What's funny is the people who try to minimize it as if the NFL is some pure majestic steed of goodness.

Typical spin media moves as well. Minimize and change the subject. Everyone is just crazy,jealous or both.

Funny how those steeler tapes got destroyed without the public seeing what was on them. Oh they're so harmful they just had to be destroyed.

It's called protecting the shield. Everyone loses if the integrity of the game is called into question and you have actual proof in film.

All of those playoff games when our players talked about them calling out all of our plays before they even ran them.

I remember billiecheat running off one of our athletic trainers who just wanted to help an injured player of his like he was the devil. Tucker was probably wearing a wire.

Magic halftime adjustments my ***. Only stupid ******* buy into this bullshit. It's ******* comical.

I know bullshit when I see it and I have a really good memory.

I find it hard to belief anyone with half a brain who's actually paid attention the last 18 years could support the pats******


I've had respect for accomplishments of the packers,raiders,cowboys,broncos,rats, but these guys I got nothing at all.


You can stick that jealous toddler syndrome up your *** too. I'm sorry if you believe in santa,i don't.

Only lawyers and politicians minimize bad behavior and spin it.

So you're gonna stop watching nfl football, right? Surely you wouldnt roll your good name and reputation in the mud by having any association with such a scoundrel of an organization like the NFL, right? Or, maybe you already have, and you just keep up with league matters on a Steeler board like this because...reasons?

But sure, no prob. Keep giving paragraph after paragraph as to why this whole thing isnt bitter crackers born out of jealousy. Sure. *rolls eyes*

 

[Steelr4evr]

So you're gonna stop watching nfl football, right? Surely you wouldnt roll your good name and reputation in the mud by having any association with such a scoundrel of an organization like the NFL, right? Or, maybe you already have, and you just keep up with league matters on a Steeler board like this because...reasons?

But sure, no prob. Keep giving paragraph after paragraph as to why this whole thing isnt bitter crackers born out of jealousy. Sure. *rolls eyes*

Funny how you defend the indefensible. What law firm are you at.

I'll write whatever I want. Your opinion doesn't matter to me in the least. I'll pick my time when I'll go bye bye unless they kick me out.

If you want to support frauds as legit that's your deal. It ain't mine.

 

[Omar10213245]

Funny how you defend the indefensible. What law firm are you at.

I'll write whatever I want. Your opinion doesn't matter to me in the least. I'll pick my time when I'll go bye bye unless they kick me out.

If you want to support frauds as legit that's your deal. It ain't mine.

ok then, as I expected. Continue to stew in your own bitterness, its your life

 

[Drink IRON City]

How do you know the Steelers were winning those Superbowl games those years?

This whole thread smacks of jealous toddler syndrome, its pathetic

Then explain away.......... The CHEATRIOTS cheater their way into at least two SBs the STEELERS should have been in.




Salute the nation

 

[Drink IRON City]

So you're gonna stop watching nfl football, right? Surely you wouldnt roll your good name and reputation in the mud by having any association with such a scoundrel of an organization like the NFL, right? Or, maybe you already have, and you just keep up with league matters on a Steeler board like this because...reasons?

But sure, no prob. Keep giving paragraph after paragraph as to why this whole thing isnt bitter crackers born out of jealousy. Sure. *rolls eyes*

It's born out of truth. READ THE ******* ARTICKLE. When they are caught cheating, it is cheating and NOT made up. They have fined and suspended, again cheating. Give us your explaination of all the astronomical stat's that are so far out there in comparison to a PARITY league. I know it's useless argueing with you and it is what it is, but when I say **** the CHEATRIOTS it's NOT due to jealousy but due to honor and respect for playing within the rules and of course ETHICS. Go ahead,......flame away but you can't explain away what they have and are getting away with.



Salute the nation

 

[stillwright]

So you're gonna stop watching nfl football, right? Surely you wouldnt roll your good name and reputation in the mud by having any association with such a scoundrel of an organization like the NFL, right? Or, maybe you already have, and you just keep up with league matters on a Steeler board like this because...reasons?

But sure, no prob. Keep giving paragraph after paragraph as to why this whole thing isnt bitter crackers born out of jealousy. Sure. *rolls eyes*

I don't fault or blame the Patriots anymore. They cheated and got caught. For the better of the league the owners let them get a pass. I understand that. As a fan I think it sucks. As a fan I think the Rooney's owe us better, but it is a business for them. I get it. I'm not niave enough to think that the Pats didn't cheat though. They (Pats) didn't do all that they did with the filming because it hardly gave them any help. As the result of spygate I don't follow football as I use to. I don't spend my money on the NFL product anymore. I only watch Steelers games anymore. While in the past if football was on I would watch it. Now as of now I'm watching the AAF game right now. Just my choice. I'm sure there are plently out there just like me though. And I am sure there are plently out there just like you.

 

[Omar10213245]

It's born out of truth. READ THE ******* ARTICKLE. When they are caught cheating, it is cheating and NOT made up. They have fined and suspended, again cheating. Give us your explaination of all the astronomical stat's that are so far out there in comparison to a PARITY league. I know it's useless argueing with you and it is what it is, but when I say **** the CHEATRIOTS it's NOT due to jealousy but due to honor and respect for playing within the rules and of course ETHICS. Go ahead,......flame away but you can't explain away what they have and are getting away with.



Salute the nation

so why do you continue to watch? why do you continue to associate yourself with this league if they're bereft of ethics and honor, and this is such a huge problem for you? Why not move on to something else, and leave NFL football behind???

All I'm saying, is at this point, I don't care anymore. I don't get worked up about it, i dont let it ruin my day/week/month/life. Was that team doing questionable things? Yes, I'm sure they were. Will I ever know exactly to what extent they went to, in order to gain an advantage? In other words, will I ever get to see the evidence with my own two eyeballs? NO, I won't, so why worry about it? I like football, and I'm going to continue to like football, whether that team is winning or not. I'm not going to stew in a bitter state of mind for the rest of my life to satisfy my own indignation, it's beyond lame.

 

[MTC]

All I'm saying, is at this point, I don't care anymore. I don't get worked up about it, i dont let it ruin my day/week/month/life. Was that team doing questionable things? Yes, I'm sure they were. Will I ever know exactly to what extent they went to, in order to gain an advantage? In other words, will I ever get to see the evidence with my own two eyeballs? NO, I won't, so why worry about it? I like football, and I'm going to continue to like football, whether that team is winning or not. I'm not going to stew in a bitter state of mind for the rest of my life to satisfy my own indignation, it's beyond lame.

Good point

 

[MTC]

And for every fan that enables it, you will continue to see it happen.

Read the article none of that is conspiracy.

I question fans that it doesn't effect.

They took at least two SBs from our team.

That is significant.

Eh there's nothing as a fan we can do.
Does it suck? Yes. But at a point you gotta just accept we lost.

If the nfl does tank, that's the owners issue.
I'll try to enjoy the Steelers while they are still in function.

Whatever the pats did and if it comes to light. Well the nfl will not be the same

 

[Drink IRON City]

I know I can't do anything about the CHEATRIOTS cheating. I'm a football fan, STEELERS football fan-attic and will be for a long time to come (provided they don't stoop to unreal levels). Am I mad as hell and letting the cheaters dictate my life.......absolutely NOT. Will I accept their cheating ways, NO. My only role is to remind people of the fact they are cheaters and have achieved what they have through cheating. How hard is that to accept????? I guess cheating is the new way because if I one is willing to accept this as part of their life then how easy will it get to just accept it as normal in everyday life. How much is it costing people who wager on this **** show cheating..........It's their choice I understand and YES the NFL will make or break on their own, cheating / fixed / or not. Myself I don't gamble, least ways on the "manipulated" NFL, why would you unless you feel you can out guess them. One day the scandle will come out and I hope I'm here to witness it first hand.





Salute the nation

 

[slashsteel]

How do you know the Steelers were winning those Superbowl games those years?

This whole thread smacks of jealous toddler syndrome, its pathetic

Jealous because fans hate cheating?

We don't know the Steelers would win, we do know our rings wouldn't be tied.

I could easily deal with any other team out ringing the Steelers.

I despise cheaters.

I don't think it is too much to want to watch a sport that teams win legitimately.

What is pathetic is you belittling everyone who doesn't agree with you.

That is toddlers syndrome if anything.

hi

jackass

 

[slashsteel]

I know I can't do anything about the CHEATRIOTS cheating. I'm a football fan, STEELERS football fan-attic and will be for a long time to come (provided they don't stoop to unreal levels). Am I mad as hell and letting the cheaters dictate my life.......absolutely NOT. Will I accept their cheating ways, NO. My only role is to remind people of the fact they are cheaters and have achieved what they have through cheating. How hard is that to accept????? I guess cheating is the new way because if I one is willing to accept this as part of their life then how easy will it get to just accept it as normal in everyday life. How much is it costing people who wager on this **** show cheating..........It's their choice I understand and YES the NFL will make or break on their own, cheating / fixed / or not. Myself I don't gamble, least ways on the "manipulated" NFL, why would you unless you feel you can out guess them. One day the scandle will come out and I hope I'm here to witness it first hand.





Salute the nation

Omar has this delusional stance that because we hate cheating we have to go to extremes. We love the Steelers is why we watch. It doesn't have to mean we care for what is going on with the pats. I know he loves his retarded gifs, but he isn't any smarter believing in a flawed product.

The fans who despise the cheats really don't have to throw any more effort out than the ones who don't believe cheating had an altering outcome.

There is a difference between conspiracy theories and factual evidence.

If a poster can't grasp the difference, perhaps they are the actual window lickers.

 

[Steelr4evr]

I know I can't do anything about the CHEATRIOTS cheating. I'm a football fan, STEELERS football fan-attic and will be for a long time to come (provided they don't stoop to unreal levels). Am I mad as hell and letting the cheaters dictate my life.......absolutely NOT. Will I accept their cheating ways, NO. My only role is to remind people of the fact they are cheaters and have achieved what they have through cheating. How hard is that to accept????? I guess cheating is the new way because if I one is willing to accept this as part of their life then how easy will it get to just accept it as normal in everyday life. How much is it costing people who wager on this **** show cheating..........It's their choice I understand and YES the NFL will make or break on their own, cheating / fixed / or not. Myself I don't gamble, least ways on the "manipulated" NFL, why would you unless you feel you can out guess them. One day the scandle will come out and I hope I'm here to witness it first hand.





Salute the nation

They're just illegitimate and I have issues with fake sports heroes. I'm certain if I wanted to go around interviewing people I could gather the 411 needed. If I had the time and money I'd do that **** in a flash.Hell they don't even mention spygate now, they only talk about flat footballs .So what else was/is going on that you didn't get busted for? They really stepped that game up for that 16-0 season destroying people along the way as if it was some kind of purification exclamation.That's been the main focus while the other got buried,swept away and minimized. The more I hear it minimized and talk of this goat team and coach the more I actually want to find out. If most games come down to a few yard, a play or two and officials. Then every little bit adds up to a lot of advantages. If I have studied you,have your plays,signals,tendacies and I'm getting information in real time I'd say I'm going to win most of the time. My deck has 14 aces and yours has 4. If I'm given great leeway on application of rules you can stack my deck even more. The outcome while not guaranteed is heavily slanted in my favor.

The sad part is tax payers ******* fund **** tons of money for these stadiums and deserve better.

I didn't buy it 15 years ago and I don't buy it now. I don't really talk about it anymore until threads like these come up.

Most of my family some have watched over 50 years think the NFL is bullshit now as well. They concluded that on their own without any influence.

The national anthem disrespect sealed their fate in my family.

The newest group of fans coming up don't really care. They're more about fantasy football. It is what it is.

The money and gambling has truly ruined what was a great sport.

And I ******* detest cheaters! I detest them in sports even more. When you lose to someone who cheated you it ******* sticks forever.

 

[Steelr4evr]

ok then, as I expected. Continue to stew in your own bitterness, its your life

Dude I ain't bitter just real. I call out nonsense when I see it. I'm sorry you're blind .Are you like 14 years old? If not you may want to give the gif folder a little rest. It's unbecoming of a grown man to retort in such a manner. It's childish.

But hey stew in your own childish demeanor if it someone how helps your ego to feel superior.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Jealous because fans hate cheating?

We don't know the Steelers would win, we do know our rings wouldn't be tied.

I could easily deal with any other team out ringing the Steelers.

I despise cheaters.

I don't think it is too much to want to watch a sport that teams win legitimately.

What is pathetic is you belittling everyone who doesn't agree with you.

That is toddlers syndrome if anything.

hi

jackass

Omar has this delusional stance that because we hate cheating we have to go to extremes. We love the Steelers is why we watch. It doesn't have to mean we care for what is going on with the pats. I know he loves his retarded gifs, but he isn't any smarter believing in a flawed product.

The fans who despise the cheats really don't have to throw any more effort out than the ones who don't believe cheating had an altering outcome.

There is a difference between conspiracy theories and factual evidence.

If a poster can't grasp the difference, perhaps they are the actual window lickers.

They're just illegitimate and I have issues with fake sports heroes. I'm certain if I wanted to go around interviewing people I could gather the 411 needed. If I had the time and money I'd do that **** in a flash.Hell they don't even mention spygate now, they only talk about flat footballs .So what else was/is going on that you didn't get busted for? They really stepped that game up for that 16-0 season destroying people along the way as if it was some kind of purification exclamation.That's been the main focus while the other got buried,swept away and minimized. The more I hear it minimized and talk of this goat team and coach the more I actually want to find out. If most games come down to a few yard, a play or two and officials. Then every little bit adds up to a lot of advantages. If I have studied you,have your plays,signals,tendacies and I'm getting information in real time I'd say I'm going to win most of the time. My deck has 14 aces and yours has 4. If I'm given great leeway on application of rules you can stack my deck even more. The outcome while not guaranteed is heavily slanted in my favor.

The sad part is tax payers ******* fund **** tons of money for these stadiums and deserve better.

I didn't buy it 15 years ago and I don't buy it now. I don't really talk about it anymore until threads like these come up.

Most of my family some have watched over 50 years think the NFL is bullshit now as well. They concluded that on their own without any influence.

The national anthem disrespect sealed their fate in my family.

The newest group of fans coming up don't really care. They're more about fantasy football. It is what it is.

The money and gambling has truly ruined what was a great sport.

And I ******* detest cheaters! I detest them in sports even more. When you lose to someone who cheated you it ******* sticks forever.

THANK YOU


For calling it what it is,...CHEATING..!!!! My kids / grand kids know what cheating is and also know right from wrong. I wonder how many kids / grand kids see their parents accepting this cheating, weather football or everyday life (because if you start accepting a little, more is to follow) and kids emulate parents and sooner rather then later, are cheating themselves. The buck has to stop somewhere and I chose here and now, does that make me MAD as hell and governed by what the ******* cheatriots do,......HELL NO.





Salute the nation

 

[MTC]

I know I can't do anything about the CHEATRIOTS cheating. I'm a football fan, STEELERS football fan-attic and will be for a long time to come (provided they don't stoop to unreal levels). Am I mad as hell and letting the cheaters dictate my life.......absolutely NOT. Will I accept their cheating ways, NO. My only role is to remind people of the fact they are cheaters and have achieved what they have through cheating. How hard is that to accept????? I guess cheating is the new way because if I one is willing to accept this as part of their life then how easy will it get to just accept it as normal in everyday life. How much is it costing people who wager on this **** show cheating..........It's their choice I understand and YES the NFL will make or break on their own, cheating / fixed / or not. Myself I don't gamble, least ways on the "manipulated" NFL, why would you unless you feel you can out guess them. One day the scandle will come out and I hope I'm here to witness it first hand.





Salute the nation

I hope we do witness it. The nfl needs to be brought to light on whatever antics it's pulled.
The ones who bet money are the ones being cheated.

I mean if it's mafia type stuff betting.
Good luck Roger Goodell lol

 

[Omar10213245]

Jealous because fans hate cheating?

We don't know the Steelers would win, we do know our rings wouldn't be tied.

I could easily deal with any other team out ringing the Steelers.

I despise cheaters.

I don't think it is too much to want to watch a sport that teams win legitimately.

What is pathetic is you belittling everyone who doesn't agree with you.

That is toddlers syndrome if anything.

hi

jackass

settle down. don't lose your cool, maintain your bearing.

 

[slashsteel]

settle down. don't lose your cool, maintain your bearing.