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No leadership, no winning culture.

TDX27 said:
Two years in a row Ben has been terrible early in the season. And, we all know the reason why but I'll say it again. He has no timing with his receivers because he didn't play in the pre-season. A series or two does not get your ready for the regular season. You can't give up a win this early in the season and blame it on anything else. That is piss poor coaching. And, then we go in a shell up by 2 scores with a ton of time to go in the 4th quarter. There's just no excuse for this loss. The O, D and coaching all played their part but if the coaches had Ben play in 2 games during the pre-season, this game is a win.
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Don't pretend he's hot during the season, cuz he ain't...he's on and off man. That Chicago game last season...that 1st Jax game...he sucked hog ***. He ain't Brady...he ain't Brees...he's Fran Tarkenton/Stabler new age redux...

Were we to play him more in the pre-season and he gets injured then oooooooohhhh ****!!!...."Tomlins a bum"....folks are gonna *****...

Gone and get it out, man Goddamn.....
 
SteelBuckeye said:
Timing wouldn't have helped on two of those INTs. Those were just boneheaded decisions. Another 2 were on the line (they played in the preseason) and another on the TE. Yet and still, I'm not in the "sky is falling" camp yet. Oh, and you can't blame the D for this tie. They played... Especially Watt
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Liked the pass pressure when they sent guys.

Hated when the Brownies were pinned deep on a possession in the 4th quarter, and twice on 3rd and medium, the Steelers sent 3 ...

Resulting in ZERO pass pressure, Tyrod ******* Taylor having all day to throw, resulting in 2 conversions and flipping the field.
 
B Harder said:
Yeah it's over already. You guys are nuts.When we win it all you will eat it.
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This team isn't winning a SB. Just stop. I mean, it's been 10 years. But yeah, THIS is the year. Just like last year, and the year before, and the year before.....
 
scstillerfan said:
Now we see what this team will turn into once the good Ben is gone. And he's close to gone.
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He's kinda helped bring some of the funk...His prime is about done...you might get 3 more 4-TD games outta this mule.

We could have fared as well, with Dobbs behind center...and I'm serious when I say that
 
The only 'goat' I saw out there was Ben although Burns didn't help much either.

I realize Ben's getting older but there is a direct correlation between his practice time and his efficiency. I just hope there is enough in the tank to carry us for the rest of the season.
 
I'm not a Tomlin apologist by any stretch, but this is on Ben. Plenty of reason to be pissed with preseason prep or lack, but his progressions are slowing to the point even the browns can read him. ****** weather, turtle ball, whatever you call it, you cannot give any team the ball that many times and win. Big shout out to the big wet sloppy kiss he just gave our sister.

Thanks for the tie TJ Watt. Give Josh Dobbs the ball Ben.
 
Playing Ben for more than 2 series in the preseason..........you don't think that would have made any difference in how he played today??
 
xjx said:
A tie is as good as a loss. Eat some crow Tomlin. Dupree over runs every play. He sucks. The defense gave up 14 pts in 4th quarter. Not a winning team.
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7 of those points were when the Browns took over at the 1 yard line lol Kinda hard to pin that on the D
 
Punxsutawney said:
For a coach who preaches not living in his fears or whatever, he sure as hell does not coach that way.

He coaches like a wuss. Plain and simple.
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13-3 last year. The most dangerous opponents are bad teams on the road.
 
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I wouldn't lose sleep if Tomlin went bye bye....but how about put the blame on our QB for this loss. He played like garbage today. I'm sure he will say as much himself.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
Ouch ... My head ... The sky is falling.
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Yeah SteelBuck they need to vent. They’re pissed after letting a game get away in the way that it did after having a two score lead late. We had this game but did everything they could to not win it.

Ben didn’t play his best game, Big Al was getting abused by Garrett which played into Ben’s issues.

Six turnovers, bad weather and on the road it’s a wonder they didn’t lose by two scores.

I think the boys will rebound and be ok. I do think we need another option at receiver though. I hope that can be Washington.



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Long season guys. We had a terrible loss to the Bears in Week 3 last year, and still finished 13-3. Step away from the cliff already. smh


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Well 6 turnovers and the browns still couldn't get the W. Man that must be depressing after sitting in the rain for a tie...hahaha. See life could be much worse. Oh well next.
 
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Cras108er said:
Long season guys. We had a terrible loss to the Bears in Week 3 last year, and still finished 13-3. Step away from the cliff already. smh


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No cliff, just fans voicing their displeasure over a large body of suck.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Hue Jackson is the worst coach in the NFL and had an offense that could barely complete a pass and they still came away with a tie.
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Correction, Hue Jackson is the worst head coach in NFL history based on wins and losses.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Hue Jackson is the worst coach in the NFL and had an offense that could barely complete a pass and they still came away with a tie.
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Put fu....g coach Dumblin in that Browns team and the results will be the same as they are under Jackson...
 
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