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Penn State vs Ohio State

Tough to blow a big lead on the road. Ohio State absolutely dominated in the fourth quarter and completely shut down the best running back in the nation on offense. That game lived up to its hype, very entertaining.
 
Well, I'm not sure how to take that but Bama isn't a 'shoe in' yet...

This loss is gonna hurt Penn St. because it's so late in the season...

Do you honestly think that Alabama doesn't get in to the playoffs?
 
The game reminds me of watching the Steelers. Terrible play calling with no adjustments the entire game on O.

Ohio State made a ton of mistakes and Penn State capitalized. Otherwise, OSU would have won going away.

There was no quick passing game to adjust for their rush and to them stacking the box. 90% of the handoffs to Barkley were delayed handoffs and there were already several guys there to make the tackle as soon as he touched the ball. He lost yards on the majority of the runs today. The quick handoffs worked the most of the time but they kept going back to the same old, same old.

The last 2 offensive series, it looked like Penn State didn't even try. Ohio State was moving all game on us. I have no idea why we went right back to delayed handoffs to put us in a hole on those two series. Plain stupidity and choke job.
 
I don't remember his name, but the defensive lineman for Ohio State who tackled McSorley and Barkley at the same time summed up PSU's fourth-quarter offense perfectly. Ohio State manhandled the OL and ate up PSU's run plays.
 
I don't remember his name, but the defensive lineman for Ohio State who tackled McSorley and Barkley at the same time summed up PSU's fourth-quarter offense perfectly. Ohio State manhandled the OL and ate up PSU's run plays.

I think it was Bosa. Not sure if he's the younger brother of the Bosa that's in the NFL but he is damn good.
 
Both sides of the line were manhandled all day. If PSU hadn't had some quick scores it would have been a blowout. The five traffic cones they call an offensive line and the four they call a defensive line did them in. PSU was not championship material.
 
The game reminds me of watching the Steelers. Terrible play calling with no adjustments the entire game on O.

Ohio State made a ton of mistakes and Penn State capitalized. Otherwise, OSU would have won going away.

There was no quick passing game to adjust for their rush and to them stacking the box. 90% of the handoffs to Barkley were delayed handoffs and there were already several guys there to make the tackle as soon as he touched the ball. He lost yards on the majority of the runs today. The quick handoffs worked the most of the time but they kept going back to the same old, same old.

The last 2 offensive series, it looked like Penn State didn't even try. Ohio State was moving all game on us. I have no idea why we went right back to delayed handoffs to put us in a hole on those two series. Plain stupidity and choke job.

No adjustment to the rush at all. No quick passes. Nothing. And those stupid running plays had no chance at all,but they still repeated that insane logic. The defense couldn't get to the qb and got killed on those frigging crossing routes late in the game. You should never lose a game when you put up 38 points. Oh well. I can hope they win out and others drop a game. They still have to fix the OL,so I'm somewhat doubtful they can win it all anyhow.
 
I think it was Bosa. Not sure if he's the younger brother of the Bosa that's in the NFL but he is damn good.

Yes it is and he is projected by many to be every bit as good as his brother by the time he's done. Still just a Sophomore. Hubbard is highly touted too. Pretty sure they are saying Hubbard is a consensus 1st round lock next draft....and very possibly a high 1st rounder.
 
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OSU's defensive line utterly destroyed Penn State's front. Barkley didn't have a chance. They were getting hands on him as soon as he got the ball, and McSorley had no time at all to throw in the 4th quarter. Calling the Penn St. offensive line turnstiles, would be an insult to turnstiles. They weren't even slowing the rushers down. It was like they weren't even there.
 
Penn State still has no depth on OL or DL and that was the difference. They lost the starting DE early in the game. He is a big DE who can play the run. His backup is a 230 Lb freshman, a speed rusher.

In the second half PSU lost their starting LT and from that point, the OSU DL was unblockable. Barkley had no chance on most of his runs. He was getting hit just as he took the ball.

Penn State's big plays actually contributed to the loss. Their quick scores kept putting their defense out there and they just got worn down. They don't have the depth yet to rotate and stay fresh.

This was like watching last year's Super Bowl. Atlanta's big plays meant NE had the ball so much longer and in the end Atlanta was just dead tired.

I don't think PSU will fall that far in the polls. I'm thinking 4-7 range. Miami is undefeated but they don't look very good, scraping by each week against mediocre teams. Will they put Wisconsin over PSU? They haven't played anybody.

I'm thinking

1 Alabama
2 Georgia
3 Ohio State
4 Notre Dame
5 Wisconsin
6 Penn State
7 Clemson
8 Miami
 
It's going to be interesting to see which 4 teams end up in the playoff. Baring an upset, it looks like Bama and Georgia are headed towards an epic SEC title game. If they both come in undefeated, they'll both get bids. The Pac 12 is done, no bids for them this year. Wisconsin, and Miami are both undefeated. While I don't expect either to remain so, if they win out, they would both be locks. Neither will get in with one loss. (Miami will soon be it's old self, but not this year. When the Canes are winning, the local talent stays home, which will soon have them breathing down Bama's neck). After that, you have the true one loss contenders. Penn St. is dead after that 4th quarter. ND, Clemson, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., and Ohio St. are the real contenders. Unless there are some upsets in the next few weeks, there is going to be big controversy when one or maybe two very good teams get left out. The call for an 8 team playoff is going to get very loud.
 
A one point loss on the road to OSU probably doesn't totally kill PSU. It would be ironic if PSU gets in over OSU thus year, but there are a lot of teams in a big jumble. Will be very interesting
 
Penn State still has no depth on OL or DL and that was the difference. They lost the starting DE early in the game. He is a big DE who can play the run. His backup is a 230 Lb freshman, a speed rusher.

In the second half PSU lost their starting LT and from that point, the OSU DL was unblockable. Barkley had no chance on most of his runs. He was getting hit just as he took the ball.

Penn State's big plays actually contributed to the loss. Their quick scores kept putting their defense out there and they just got worn down. They don't have the depth yet to rotate and stay fresh.

This was like watching last year's Super Bowl. Atlanta's big plays meant NE had the ball so much longer and in the end Atlanta was just dead tired.

I don't think PSU will fall that far in the polls. I'm thinking 4-7 range. Miami is undefeated but they don't look very good, scraping by each week against mediocre teams. Will they put Wisconsin over PSU? They haven't played anybody.

I'm thinking

1 Alabama
2 Georgia
3 Ohio State
4 Notre Dame
5 Wisconsin
6 Penn State
7 Clemson
8 Miami

Of course with Miami, as I've said, I don't think they're quite all the way back yet, (soon, but not yet) but if by some miracle they beat VT, ND, and Clemson in the ACC title game, they'll blow past Penn St., and every other one loss team. Penn St. just looked so overmatched in that 4th quarter that I think it will hurt them with voters who saw the game. ND really looks good. Penn St. can't make the Big 10 title game unless OSU loses 2 games. They would really need for several teams to stumble. If Clemson wins out, I can't see them being left out.
 
I think Bama will crush Georgia. Georgia plays nobody. They got Notre Dame early when they were still unsettled at QB and that was a 1 point game. I think the SEC Champ game will be the first game their QB has to do anything at all and he'll get crushed.

I won't be surprised if ESPN starts pushing the notion that if Bama and Georgia are 1 and 2 that both simply MUST make the playoff regardless of the outcome of their game.
 
A one point loss on the road to OSU probably doesn't totally kill PSU. It would be ironic if PSU gets in over OSU thus year, but there are a lot of teams in a big jumble. Will be very interesting

The advantage OSU had last year was a better overall record, and the fact that Penn State's two losses were bad. At Pitt, and getting curbstomped by Michigan. Penn St. won't have those advantages this year, as OSU only has one loss, and it was to Oklahoma, although the game being in Columbus will hurt OSU. All of those one loss teams should be rooting for ND to lose, but of course if the loss is to Miami, that could create another problem.
 
I think Bama will crush Georgia. Georgia plays nobody. They got Notre Dame early when they were still unsettled at QB and that was a 1 point game. I think the SEC Champ game will be the first game their QB has to do anything at all and he'll get crushed.

I won't be surprised if ESPN starts pushing the notion that if Bama and Georgia are 1 and 2 that both simply MUST make the playoff regardless of the outcome of their game.

Will probably depend on how close the game is. If Bama blows them out, they might not get in. If the game is close, you can bet they both get bids, and they would probably deserve them.
 
The advantage OSU had last year was a better overall record, and the fact that Penn State's two losses were bad. At Pitt, and getting curbstomped by Michigan. Penn St. won't have those advantages this year, as OSU only has one loss, and it was to Oklahoma, although the game being in Columbus will hurt OSU. All of those one loss teams should be rooting for ND to lose, but of course if the loss is to Miami, that could create another problem.

Yeah thats what I'm saying. PSU had bad losses but beat OSU, win the Big 10, and alot of people thought they deserved to get in. A 1 point loss to the 6th ranked team on their field is not a "bad" loss. However there are so many 1 loss teams it is near impossible to sort them out. MSU lost again which will also hurt PSU.
 
Alabama has not really beat anyone good to this point. One loss should hurt them (unless its to GA), but probably won't. Don't get me wrong Alabama is a very strong team and probably #1, but based on this year they haven't been tested. Georgia has a win at ND and against misst. To this point they have a better pedigree than Ala.

If you had told me PSU scored 38 points at OSU i would have thought it was a PSU blowout. I did not think OSU had the offense for the PSU defense. PSU had given up 0 points in the first quarter till yesterday. To get steamrolled for over 500 yards is shocking. Barkley averaged getting touched .5 yards behind the LOS that is sad. I think PSUs only chance now is if OSU loses another game and PSU beats an undefeated Wisconsin team
 
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