You seem more built to debate than to answer a simplistic question..
BTW great coaching is what puts talent in the position to win when it matters.
Coaching vs execution
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You seem more built to debate than to answer a simplistic question..
BTW great coaching is what puts talent in the position to win when it matters.
So what was subpar about the play call that caused heath to miss his block?
They illustrate another play Bryants screen where cut back instead of just staying down the sideline. Is that on coaching? We've seen Bryant stay down the sideline and score this one he chose to cutback when it looks he can get the first or come close if stats down the sideline. Is that execution or bad playcalling?
I can see your point and it is valid. If that's somebodies argument as to why they believe he should go than so be it. But, it's like Cowher never had any faults which there were plenty.
The thing about our franchise is that the Rooney's aren't trying to turn themselves into a must get it right coaching turnstyle in Pittsburgh. Everybody has their faults or needs improvement. I just don't see them sending Tomlin away when they endured back to back losing seasons and 3 straight yrs of no playoffs with Cowher. Its just not them. So, I rather channel efforts and pressure onto the players to get it together. If, they are capable to endure 4 kickers and 3 starting QB's, losing start RB and having a suspended up and coming WR talent, in one season, I believe they owe themselves to not lay an egg against inferior opponents.
Players make bad plays, a good coach minimizes them, and points them in the right direction. Having them prepared to play.
These players on D look lost more often than not.
Those games lost due to that, has put the team in a position to have little room for error.
All teams have highs and lows. Which is why you need solid decision making to guide them.
Which is not what this team is getting.
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It's amazing that with your three jobs you have so much time to defend your steeler welfare soulmate. It's not Tomli s fault that he will be the first coach since before chuck to go 5 yrs without a playoff win. That not his fault. It's also not his fault the steelers that they missed the playoffs3/4 the last 4 yrs. you're a firm believer people should just keep getting that check right buddy
Yep at work right now 
Now go play in traffic
Now go play in traffic
yeah Cowher had his faults. Sure they all do. But they seemed here and there. Not repetitious year in and year out. Bill's personal life led to his passion fading.
If Tomlin would fix his reoccurring issues I would be ok with him staying, they seemingly aren't trending in that direction.
The Rats game could arguably be considered his worst loss as a coach.
He seems unwilling to change and that is worry-some,
we were debating without getting personal let's keep it that way
Once again I loved Bill Cowher but seriously here and there?? The same cushions we bitching about now we bitched about then. The same way be ***** about the secondary now we bitched about the secondary and QBs then.
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What did I say that you disagreed with?
Don't worry about slash XC is a computer gangster I've offered him numerous times to have a beer and if see he pops that dumb **** he says over the internet to my face considering we live in the same state and all..
That Cowher issues were here and there
Ok beside his last year where he was disinterested what was his glaring weaknesses?
Secondary, QB, conservative
He did ok at QB than what he had to work with IMO, they weren't exactly world beaters.
I remember secondary issues but I don't remember them being on the suck level as they were this year. (But I have no real counter debate in this area so I will give you that)
His conservative play when ahead garnished a pretty impressive win loss or not?
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In that statement lies my contention with the whole Tomlin debate. He is responsible for the state of his secondary while in your words Cowher did ok with what he had to work with. Do you not see the contradiction.
I remember the secondary being a major issue of discontent culminating in the first two games of 2002 when the Patiots and Raiders spread us and refuse to run and everybody followed suit.
I gave you the secondary debate.
Anways we both agree they both had their issues.
Only thing I am saying is Tomlin's issues have increased to the point I want him gone.
As Cowher's did in his last year.
What do you see with Tomlin now that says that he is trending in the right direction?
Hell this O is so explosive yet they still miss the playoffs.... What does that say?
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It means they aren't good enough. Coaches and players. But to me that's not enough to step from the Rooney way of doing things. Thru the up and downs we keep the course
We keep the course
If the course is sitting at home on the sofa watching teams other than the Steelers play in the playoffs
yeah we are keeping that course..
I prefer another.
that part of your sentence I call bullshit..
they were in the drivers seat for a playoff appearance
beat the Cardinals one of the hottest teams in the NFL...
they were good enough
for a combination of reasons they lost to a injury depleted team
but being not good enough wasn't one of the reasons IMO
It's the course we kept in 98-00 it's the course we kept after 03. What's different now..We hadn't even won a super Bowl under Cowher yet and we didn't panic. So what's the difference now.
you seem to want to stay with the Cowher this or that.
From what I see from Tomlin's repeat issues
it is showing a theme of coming up short
and he has made comments to support my theory that he isn't going to change... doing these boneheaded things that cause
the team in the long run to lose to teams they have no business losing to
We have talked the faults to death...
What has changed from his earlier coaching to now is.
He has showed disturbing trends that don't look to be reversed.
I believe this team under-performed and at the end of the day the coach gets the blame for that.
Because that's the issue to me. What's so different for the Rooneys to deviate from the plan they set.
consistently under-performing?