Landry Jones

[Tibs]

The question for management and coaches should be: Are we confident that Landry Jones is capable of being the #2 to start the season, can he win us 2-3 games?

 

[SteelBuckeye]

This is where you want to be a few seasons in with your twenty-something back-up QB prospect... basically the polar opposite of where we are with Landry.

Brock Osweiler completed 15-of-20 passes for 151 yards and a touchdown in the Broncos' preseason opener Friday night.
Osweiler got the start and played the whole first half with Peyton Manning rested. The 2012 second-round draft pick kept Denver's offense on the move, engineering five scoring drives in five possessions including a 17-yard touchdown pass to TE Virgil Green. Osweiler flashed signs tonight that the Broncos' offense would be in competent hands should Peyton miss time in 2015.

To be fair, wasn't Osweiler a 2nd round pick? You'd kind of expect more talent and faster progress from a 2nd rounder as compared to a 4th rounder. The problem with Landry is that there really hasn't been ANY progress.

 

[bermudasteel]

I think we have seen enough. Cut him now and bring in another arm. At least we can get a good look at someone else just in case Gradkowski isn't ready.

this. ..........

 

[thesteelcity]

At this point, I'd almost rather have Terrell Pryor as the 3rd string. I would cringe a little less him running around then Jones having a roster spot even on the practice squad.

 

[Spike]

This is a lot of angst over a 3rd string QB. 3rd string, for **** sake.

I agree

I can't get too worked up over a 3rd string QB when the defense is so weak and needs my full attention.

 

[SteelerFan448]

This is a lot of angst over a 3rd string QB. 3rd string, for **** sake.

This third-string quarterback is getting a ton of snaps in practice during training camp. He is the guy throwing dump off passes and not testing the DBs down field. He isn't giving the receivers good balls to work on their timing. He is the quarterback who doesn't get rid of the ball quickly like the quarterbacks the Steelers will be facing this year and he's not just doing this against the scrubs, but getting a TON of first-team reps. If you buy into play like you practice, Jones isn't giving the defense much of a challenge or the offense much confidence.

The other issue is if Gradkowski's shoulder injury will keep him out longer than indicated, then why are they still wasting time with Jones and not finding an alternative, viable backup? I'll say the same about the defensive line depth, which is awful. Not a good situation when Cam Thomas is your best backup at defensive end.

 

[black and gold apex]

If this is Tomlin's pet project what does that say for his evaluating talent. The word was Jones was doing well at camp yet in two games he has looked far from an NFL QB. Time to find another project, one that can help down the line.

 

[SteelerFan448]

If this is Tomlin's pet project what does that say for his evaluating talent. The word was Jones was doing well at camp yet in two games he has looked far from an NFL QB. Time to find another project, one that can help down the line.

I don't know if the word is that he was doing well or that he was doing better than he was earlier in camp.

 

[Tibs]

To be fair, wasn't Osweiler a 2nd round pick?

ok, a better comparison would be Zack Mettenberger, who was a 6th round pick last year. He too is light years ahead of Landry Jones.

 

[mdk2]

I will say that Landry does one thing pretty well.. and that is stepping up in the pocket when he senses pressure. That being said.. he still is a 3rd string QB and therefore he isn't very good. That just comes with the territory of a 3rd stringer.

 

[slashsteel]

I will say that Landry does one thing pretty well.. and that is stepping up in the pocket when he senses pressure. That being said.. he still is a 3rd string QB and therefore he isn't very good. That just comes with the territory of a 3rd stringer.

yes and no

I have seen some third stringers drive finishing capable.

.....

 

[diver]

Hell yes I would! As special as Ben is, does that mean we can't have a capable back-up? Why shouldn't the team be able to win games if a starter, even Ben, goes down for a few games? And in a player like Osweiler, you have someone groomed in the system ready to take over down the line. Or if he's that damn good, you have a valuable trade asset. Anyway, holding onto a bottom-scraper like Landry does nobody any good. Just a waste of time, his time, our time, the Steelers' time.

Did Gradkowski get cut or die or something? I know he has a shoulder, but he is our 2nd string. Slowly now...Jones is 3rd string.

 

[SteelerFan448]

yes and no

I have seen some third stringers drive finishing capable.

.....

At one point last night, Kaboy tweeted Jones scored a touchdown on ONE of his 40 preseason drives. That's pathetic.

 

[diver]

I'll tell you what else. The list of great players they passed over to take Landry Jones that year is...non-existent, as far as I can tell.

Look, I think Jones sucks, too. But just ******' leave it at that. Why does it have to be something greater? Some example of the Colbert/Tomlin inadequacy of drafting? Colberts was here when they took Ben, wasn't he? They took a chance with a 4th round pick to see if they could develop a young QB. It isn't working out. Would you all feel better if they made the mistake in the 1st round or something, like that kid (JaMarcus Russell) the Raiders took that one year? Count your blessings they haven't done that. Count your blessings we aren't Buffalo, who may not even have a 1st stringer. And why not give him as many chances right now as you can? Maybe he turns the corner. Probably not, but it is just preseason right now.

Man, some of you go fishing or something or get laid. Stop worrying about 3rd string QBs.

 

[obxsteeler]

Laundry has played a ton vs scrubs this season... he is completing 50% of his pass attempts... he has a paltry 4 yards per attempt. there just isn't anything there to save...cut and move on

He isn't here to replace Ben-he's here to see if he can replace Gradkowski. Incidently Bruce has a 52% completion ratio and a 5.7yds/pass ratio for 9 years in the league. I'm sure they will be scanning the waiver wire but right now there ain't much out there.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

If this is Tomlin's pet project what does that say for his evaluating talent. The word was Jones was doing well at camp yet in two games he has looked far from an NFL QB. Time to find another project, one that can help down the line.

So, let me get this straight. Some yahoo doing the broadcast last night for the JACKSONVILLE side of the game says that Landry Jones is Tomlin's pet project and now that's gospel? Haven't heard any such thing from the LOCAL reporters, but if a JACKSONVILLE shill says it's so, it must be.

Seems legit. :beer:

 

[SteelerSask2]

Hopefully they at least put the other guys out there next week. We've seen what Landry Jones can do. I think it would be fair to say it is time to see what someone else already on the roster can do as a matter of comparison. I agree Bruce Gradkowski himself is no great shake,but I would really have a hard time seeing any point of keeping three QB's at all if the third is not capable. If nothing else, you would be better with a kickoff specialist who pounds the ball through the endzone every time. I just don't want to see Landry Jones taking up a roster spot again and particularly dressing on game days. If he is still PS eligible fine. You have a third that knows the plays sitting there. No one would possibly pick this stiff off of waivers.

 

[mightyguru]

Should have signed Tebow...

Do not want media cancer.

 

[black and gold apex]

I mentioned IF Jones was a pet project, as the paper in Pittsburgh mentioned he was having a great camp and was ready for the first game, Jones isn't ready for the second game yet Tomlin continues to allow him to play most of two games . How can you evaluate other players when Jones allows for no rhythm on the offense. Tomlin has kept Jones for two years when I would venture over 90 percent on this site never though he was good enough to make the team last year.

 

[Roy92040]

I think Tomlin has already made up his mind on this guy but he's trying to make absolutely sure that he's not about to screw up.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

I mentioned IF Jones was a pet project, as the paper in Pittsburgh mentioned he was having a great camp and was ready for the first game, Jones isn't ready for the second game yet Tomlin continues to allow him to play most of two games . How can you evaluate other players when Jones allows for no rhythm on the offense. Tomlin has kept Jones for two years when I would venture over 90 percent on this site never though he was good enough to make the team last year.

Problem about letting go of guys if they haven't shown much in two years is that you end up losing James Harrison, Cam Heyward type players. I agree that Landry has stuck around too long. Especially on the 53 man roster. All that has been accomplished with him could have been done with him on the PS. That said, no one knows WHO wanted to keep Jones on the roster or why. Maybe he has pics of Mrs. Haley having her toes sucked by Sexy Rexy while Todd watches.

The point that I was making was in regards to the fact that some folks are willing to take anything they hear regarding whichever Steeler/Coach/Management Person they don't like and run with it as if it is truth. Especially if it is seemingly negative. (And, I plead guilty to having engaged in this myself). However, a statement made by a member of the opposing team's media is NOT a valid/sound basis for accepting something as gospel ... Especially when nothing remotely similar has ever been reported by the local media or in any other market as far as I can tell.

 

[Tibs]

If you look around the league, plenty of teams carrying four QB's during pre-season. A lot of these guys will hit the open market in a few weeks.

Here are some #3 and #4 QB's that may - or may not - be better than Landry Jones:

Titans - #3 Charlie Whitehurt #4 Alex Tanney
Rams - #3 Austin Davis #4 Sean Mannion
Chargers - #3 Brad Sorensen #4 Chase Rettig
Eagles - #3 Matt Barkley #4 Tim Tebow
Raiders - #3 Matt McGloin #4 Cody Fajardo
Jets - #3 Bryce Petty #4 Jake Heaps
Saints - #3 Ryan Griffin #4 Garrett Grayson
Vikings- #3 Taylor Heinicke #4 Mike Kafka
Dolphins - #3 Josh Freeman #4 McLeod Bethel-Thompson
Jaguars - #3 Stephen Morris #4 Jeff Tuel
Packers - #3 Matt Blanchard #4 Brett Hundley
Lions - #3 Kellen Moore #4 Garrett Gilbert
Broncos - #3 Zac Dysert #4 Trevor Siemian
Cowboys - #3 Dustin Vaughan #4 Jameill Showers
Browns - #3 Thaddeus Lewis #4 Connor Shaw
Bengals - #3 Josh Johnson #4 Keith Wenning
Bills - #3 EJ Manuel #4 Matt Simms
Cardinals - #3 Logan Thomas #4 Phillip Sims

And the reason this back-up QB thing has me concerned, is that I'm not sold on Gradkowski... would be nice to add some solid depth here before we head into the season. Watching Landry Jones these past two games has made my stomach churn.

 

[madinsomniac]

He isn't here to replace Ben-he's here to see if he can replace Gradkowski. Incidently Bruce has a 52% completion ratio and a 5.7yds/pass ratio for 9 years in the league. I'm sure they will be scanning the waiver wire but right now there ain't much out there.

Again, the third string QB is either for emergency fill in use, or development... Right now Laundry has shown that in 3 years he still cant operate at NFL level even against 4th string scrubs... for every one nice spiral that is on target, he has 5 subpar-to-ugly passes. He doesn't make good reads. He just doesn't have that football sense a good QB needs at this level. Gradkowski is mediocre at best, and against NFL starters he does have a rather pedestrian stat line... but Jones's pathetic stats come vs a lot of guys who aren't even going to make a roster. He shows little promise and doesn't have the big time skill set worth trying to put 5 years of roster time into him. The steelers are better off using someone who can QB in an emergency and contribute in another way, like a slash, or acquiring a guy that has more upside with long term development than jones. If jones isn't the #2 this year, (and he obviously isn't) you move on...

 

[madinsomniac]

Problem about letting go of guys if they haven't shown much in two years is that you end up losing James Harrison, Cam Heyward type players. I agree that Landry has stuck around too long. Especially on the 53 man roster. All that has been accomplished with him could have been done with him on the PS. That said, no one knows WHO wanted to keep Jones on the roster or why. Maybe he has pics of Mrs. Haley having her toes sucked by Sexy Rexy while Todd watches.

The point that I was making was in regards to the fact that some folks are willing to take anything they hear regarding whichever Steeler/Coach/Management Person they don't like and run with it as if it is truth. Especially if it is seemingly negative. (And, I plead guilty to having engaged in this myself). However, a statement made by a member of the opposing team's media is NOT a valid/sound basis for accepting something as gospel ... Especially when nothing remotely similar has ever been reported by the local media or in any other market as far as I can tell.

There are late bloomers, but Heyward and Harrison both had a lot of flashes during their pre starter preseasons... in fact a lot of the guys that end up developing have those splash plays all through their early time... guys like Howard Jones... who looks like he is a guy who might work out with a couple years into him... Laundry's first preseason was abysmal... he didn't look better last year, this year he looks pedestrian, which is a huge improvement, but still there isn't anything I have seen that makes me think he deserves a spot on this team....

 

[Litos]

Problem about letting go of guys if they haven't shown much in two years is that you end up losing James Harrison, Cam Heyward type players. I agree that Landry has stuck around too long. Especially on the 53 man roster. All that has been accomplished with him could have been done with him on the PS. That said, no one knows WHO wanted to keep Jones on the roster or why. Maybe he has pics of Mrs. Haley having her toes sucked by Sexy Rexy while Todd watches.

The point that I was making was in regards to the fact that some folks are willing to take anything they hear regarding whichever Steeler/Coach/Management Person they don't like and run with it as if it is truth. Especially if it is seemingly negative. (And, I plead guilty to having engaged in this myself). However, a statement made by a member of the opposing team's media is NOT a valid/sound basis for accepting something as gospel ... Especially when nothing remotely similar has ever been reported by the local media or in any other market as far as I can tell.

please don't embarass yourself with those kind of comparisons, come on you are better than that. Harrison and Heyward had the physical tools and lacked experience and technique. Landry lacks everything, especially pocket presence, also is it me or all his passes look like wounded ducks? Has no zip on his throws