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The Epstein Problem

Troglodyte said:
😂 You’re unhinged.

Bill Clinton has demanded to testify to congress publicly. Now, compare and contrast that to Trump.
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You know how I know when Bill Clinton’s lying? His lips are moving. Of course he wants a public hearing. He’s a raging narcissist with a long history of believing he can lie right to the public’s face and get away with it.
 
Sarge said:
Politicians on both sides of the aisle have seen the unredacted files. The victims lived though it. There's a lot of people that know the truth. Yet not a single person has come forward and named a single name. Prince Andrew and that agent are the only people to be punished and the agent's punishment is coming from association, not pedophilia. No one has been punished under the law except Maxwell.

Something stinks with this. I don't know how anyone supports anyone in government. They have the information. But they won't tell you any of it. They won't be honest with you. But you'll run to the polls and vote for them like your life depends on it. They're glad you look at everything as left or right, rich or poor, black or white. It's how things like $9 billion in fraud just don't matter much. This too will disappear the minute they can't use it as a political tool.

Until people realize that your government cares for you only to the extent that you can enrich them, nothing is going to change. There's 330 million people in this country. And we're allowing ourselves to be led around by the nose by 535 of them. Sad.
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And some want to hand over complete control of healthcare, education, housing, childcare, corporate profits, and retirement accounts to these same folks. Because giving them 25% of our GDP isn’t enough apparently.
 
Troglodyte said:
Should the DOJ interview them? YES or NO.

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Absolutely yes.

Also, do you really think if any of them were raped by the President of the United States as children, not a single one of them would mention that in their demands for justice?

'We know their names': Epstein victims say they are making their own list​


It's been 5 and a half months since they said that. Where's the list?
 
Troglodyte said:
JFC! No!

I would say “Yes, in fact, I notified the police.”

You’re doing metal gymnastics to make Trumps behavior and statements consistent with someone who’s not guilty.
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He knew, or at least suspected. I'll admit his statement that he didn't know was dishonest.

Now, will you admit that if he told the police about it, as you're insisting he did, it's unlikely he's guilty of it himself? Will you admit that so far Trump is the only person involved for whom we have evidence of disapproval of Epstein's conduct, cooperation with police or disassociating with him as a friend?
 
oneforthebus said:
Absolutely yes.

Also, do you really think if any of them were raped by the President of the United States as children, not a single one of them would mention that in their demands for justice?

'We know their names': Epstein victims say they are making their own list​


It's been 5 and a half months since they said that. Where's the list?
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And why don't they each relate their story, combine them as a group, and release the horrific details to the public? Name names, redacted their own, publish as a group.

If horrible things happened, where are the details to force prosecutors to take action? If DoJ is "holding back" why doesn't the group actually do something forceful?
 
Ron Burgundy said:
The Andrew formerly known as Prince arrested in England for leaking trade information to Epstein.

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What I find interesting about this is King Charles dated a 19 year old when he was in his 30s, married her at 20, impregnated her twice, all while ******* around on her and is somehow seen as a paragon of virtue now.

Not saying Andrew isn't disgusting for having sex with a 17 year old, I just find it kind of funny that Charles is only maybe a shred less disgusting. I think had Andrew just said "Yes, I cheated on my wife, I'm sorry for that, and I was lied to, she was 17 and a half but I was told she was 18" no one would even care about this.
 
oneforthebus said:
And some want to hand over complete control of healthcare, education, housing, childcare, corporate profits, and retirement accounts to these same folks. Because giving them 25% of our GDP isn’t enough apparently.
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This is what I'm saying. It amazes me that so many Americans want to put all their faith in a government that repeatedly steals from them, lies to them and fails them over and over. When was the last time a politician was arrested for anything? Nixon's AG?
 
oneforthebus said:
I think had Andrew just said "Yes, I cheated on my wife, I'm sorry for that, and I was lied to, she was 17 and a half but I was told she was 18" no one would even care about this.
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I disagree. After seeing some of the crap people get spun up about, I have no doubt people would be howling either way.
 
Sarge said:
I disagree. After seeing some of the crap people get spun up about, I have no doubt people would be howling either way.
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Some people would, sure. Just like some people briefly howled about Charles cheating and Bill Clinton cheating in the Oval Office with a young intern, but because they're on the correct "side" all is forgiven.
 
Confluence said:
when will the American Justice system begin to hold folks accountable?
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well, it depend$ on the allegation$ again$t any individual($), which countrie$ they are re$iding and if tho$e countrie$ have extradition reciprocation law$. I hope that clarifie$ thing$ for you.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Can you prove this? And if you do, will you show your equal outrage at the crimes committed by the DOJ under President Mashed Potato or Black Jesus as well?
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Can you explain why they redacted names they weren’t supposed to according to the LAW? Or why they lied about there being no credible evidence against Trump?
Tim Steelersfan said:
Sounds a WHOLE lot like one administration during COVID, don't you agree?
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Trying to make Covid political works until you remember that it was a global pandemic. Then it’s stupid, but keep trying.
Tim Steelersfan said:
I've always been for the release. I know you love repeating this line, but I'll challenge you to go find one post where I've said I didn't want the files released. I'll wait (till hell freezes over, cuz you can't).
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Then why aren’t you making the same criticisms as Massie, Mace and Khana and defending Bondi and Patel?
Tim Steelersfan said:
How am I making it political, do tell? I have said repeatedly, fry all who were involved and I've said release the files since well before Trump took the White House again.

This too ought to be good.
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You’re siding with Trump and defending the DOJ, speaking out both sides of your ***.
 
 
 
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Troglodyte said:
Can you explain why they redacted names they weren’t supposed to according to the LAW? Or why they lied about there being no credible evidence against Trump?
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Oh for ***** sake, I can play this game too. Can you explain why you stated you shot a semi-automatic 30-30, and still haven't said "whoops I ****** up, I was wrong?" Can you explain why the media has no outrage about Clinton being the most obvious person implicated in the Epstein files? Can you explain why Whoopi Goldberg is getting a pass for requesting planes from Epstein? Can you explain why no one believes your fat *** walks 43 miles a day on a golf course? Can you explain why there is such a high incidence of mass shooters in the trans population ("It doesn't affect me so I don't care" can't be a response).

We can play answer a question with a question all day son.

Troglodyte said:
Trying to make Covid political works until you remember that it was a global pandemic. Then it’s stupid, but keep trying.
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Damn near EVERYTHING about Covid was political when handled. The fact that you have such blind faith in Government reminds us all, you are the problem.

Troglodyte said:
Then why aren’t you making the same criticisms as Massie, Mace and Khana and defending Bondi and Patel?
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You expect me to be a blue-haired harpy like you, running around with snot rolling out over my nose rings shrieking like a banshee as you do on this board? Let me type this slowly...

Like a professional, I have stated (many times)...

The
Files
Should
Be
Released

I'm sorry my method doesn't meet your harpy Liberal standards.

That said, I've stated it. I want justice on both sides of the aisle. You? As stated, you will defend any Liberal implicated in the fiasco. You only want (R) pelts, because this is religion for you.

Troglodyte said:
You’re siding with Trump and defending the DOJ, speaking out both sides of your ***.
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And you pick and choose and fail to read and comprehend. I said just a page ago that if Trump is proven to have raped some underage girl, he should die by firing squad.

You conveniently overlook things people type here, because you're an ideologue.

Yet no one has seen you say anything like "If Bill Clinton is implicated for raping underage girls, he should suffer punishment."

You - and your ilk - are and will continue to be the problem
 
oneforthebus said:
You know how I know when Bill Clinton’s lying? His lips are moving. Of course he wants a public hearing. He’s a raging narcissist with a long history of believing he can lie right to the public’s face and get away with it.
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So not everyone is a truthful as Dear Leader Trump.

Speaking of lying, I find not wanting someone to testify because you think they’ll lie as disingenuous.
 
oneforthebus said:
Absolutely yes.

Also, do you really think if any of them were raped by the President of the United States as children, not a single one of them would mention that in their demands for justice?
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Well, if the President of the United States DOJ was ignoring them… but you don’t find that suspicious in the least.
 
oneforthebus said:
He knew, or at least suspected. I'll admit his statement that he didn't know was dishonest.

Now, will you admit that if he told the police about it, as you're insisting he did, it's unlikely he's guilty of it himself? Will you admit that so far Trump is the only person involved for whom we have evidence of disapproval of Epstein's conduct, cooperation with police or disassociating with him as a friend?
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He didn’t allegedly TELL the police, he allegedly thanked them after the fact by essentially admitting everyone knew but didn’t do anything. Your glasses are a lovely shade of rose.
 
Troglodyte said:
Well, if the President of the United States DOJ was ignoring them… but you don’t find that suspicious in the least.
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It would have had to have been several Presidents DOJ ignoring them, if we're being honest. This **** has been going on since what, 2006? Yet nobody has said anything publicly. That's what I find, not necessarily suspicious, but odd at the very least.
 
 
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