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The Epstein Problem

madinsomniac said:
Look, I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, but Epstein's FBI files were purged several administrations ago.
Epstein wasnt some recent development.
In the 90's, his involvement with the Clintons was flagged by all sorts of groups. Before he was a known Pedo, he was a financer tied to but never accused of participating in one of the biggest financial scandals at that time, and getting chummy with a president with his own whitewater scandal hanging over his head.

Yeah, he got caught with the Sex ring crap during the Bush administration FBI didnt nab him... local police did... the subsequent FBI investigation and federal prosecution was done under both the Bush and Obama Administration... THE FBI COLLECTED THOSE FILES INA MANNER THAT LET THEM GIVE HIM A SWEETHEART DEAL... go read about how much bullshit that original plea deal was... and again, it spanned a republican and democratic administration....

I dont ******* want to hear Dems even peep about this ****, because when we were bitching about him back then they were pooh poohing it away. Dems have pervasively ignored human trafficking claims through the past few decades... Pizzagate was an imbecilic Republican reddit concoction, but the equally stupid pushback from libs claiming Pedo rigs among the elite were conspiracy fantasies was so common it is almost humorous watching the same people flip in a heartbeat because of political agendas.

The reason why both sides have clamored to release stuff about Epstein for political gains, but both sheltered him in the past and neither were willing to do anything until the public outcry was deafening int because of politicians involvement... they eat their own all the time... its if you look too close you will dig up Financial guys involvement, and not just with kid diddling... all sorts of unsavory fraud and scams that tie to the bankers... thats what they are protecting... the money...
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Chrissy Teigen says pizza makes her squirm.
 
madinsomniac said:
Look, I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, but Epstein's FBI files were purged several administrations ago.
Epstein wasnt some recent development.
In the 90's, his involvement with the Clintons was flagged by all sorts of groups. Before he was a known Pedo, he was a financer tied to but never accused of participating in one of the biggest financial scandals at that time, and getting chummy with a president with his own whitewater scandal hanging over his head.

Yeah, he got caught with the Sex ring crap during the Bush administration FBI didnt nab him... local police did... the subsequent FBI investigation and federal prosecution was done under both the Bush and Obama Administration... THE FBI COLLECTED THOSE FILES INA MANNER THAT LET THEM GIVE HIM A SWEETHEART DEAL... go read about how much bullshit that original plea deal was... and again, it spanned a republican and democratic administration....

I dont ******* want to hear Dems even peep about this ****, because when we were bitching about him back then they were pooh poohing it away. Dems have pervasively ignored human trafficking claims through the past few decades... Pizzagate was an imbecilic Republican reddit concoction, but the equally stupid pushback from libs claiming Pedo rigs among the elite were conspiracy fantasies was so common it is almost humorous watching the same people flip in a heartbeat because of political agendas.

The reason why both sides have clamored to release stuff about Epstein for political gains, but both sheltered him in the past and neither were willing to do anything until the public outcry was deafening int because of politicians involvement... they eat their own all the time... its if you look too close you will dig up Financial guys involvement, and not just with kid diddling... all sorts of unsavory fraud and scams that tie to the bankers... thats what they are protecting... the money...
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So, hammers and BleachBit?
 
The problem that I have with the Epstein files is much like the cancel culture we saw 5-6 years ago. People potentially having their lives ruined simply for having a name mentioned in files, regardless of how or what their involvement actually was. Casey Wasserman is going to lose his agency and a good number of clients because of emails he had about a relationship with Glaxine Maxwell 6 years before anyone knew anything about Epstein. The real issue with the Epstein debacle is that it shows how little faith the US people have in the justice department. Full Transparency should not be giving names of anyone that ever talked to, emailed, was at a party...etc. with Epstein. A whole lot of innocent people are going to be destroyed. If there was any trust in the US Justice System, Pam Bondi should have been able to say these are the names of the individuals who are directly tied to child trafficking, assault, rape...etc after they were arrested and charged with a crime.
 
Steeler Pride said:
The problem that I have with the Epstein files is much like the cancel culture we saw 5-6 years ago. People potentially having their lives ruined simply for having a name mentioned in files, regardless of how or what their involvement actually was. Casey Wasserman is going to lose his agency and a good number of clients because of emails he had about a relationship with Glaxine Maxwell 6 years before anyone knew anything about Epstein. The real issue with the Epstein debacle is that it shows how little faith the US people have in the justice department. Full Transparency should not be giving names of anyone that ever talked to, emailed, was at a party...etc. with Epstein. A whole lot of innocent people are going to be destroyed. If there was any trust in the US Justice System, Pam Bondi should have been able to say these are the names of the individuals who are directly tied to child trafficking, assault, rape...etc after they were arrested and charged with a crime.
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I think it also shows how little faith Americans have in each other. In this country, you don't need any evidence of anything. A simple accusation is enough to turn a person into a pariah, at least publicly. Casey Wasserman is the latest example, but there have been many. I mean, why wait for evidence that someone was diddling kids when you can just assume it based based on someone mentioning a person's name over a completely innocuous topic based on who they associate with?
 
Sarge said:
I think it also shows how little faith Americans have in each other. In this country, you don't need any evidence of anything. A simple accusation is enough to turn a person into a pariah, at least publicly. Casey Wasserman is the latest example, but there have been many. I mean, why wait for evidence that someone was diddling kids when you can just assume it based based on someone mentioning a person's name over a completely innocuous topic based on who they associate with?
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The rules for public guilt are not even consistent. It's aggravating. Have a "D" by your name? Probably just an indiscretion. Are you in a legally protected group? You are a victim and don't get any consequences. Are you a white conservative? You're guilty.

The faith in any system is not there. One of the reasons that this nation is broken beyond repair.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
New Republic is a hard left rated site. Try again and include actual evidence.
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Richard Sollenberger is an independent journalist. The accuser was deemed to be a credible accuser and won a settlement against Epstein’s estate. Bondi lied. Patel lied. Blanche lied. Why? You’re in steadfast denial. You’re in a cult.
 
Well, what if the Epstein files contained info about what guys like Bill Gates and the dead Pedo were working on? The Brits already fired one guy, and their PM Starmer looks to going down for this too. Here is a summary:

 
 
Troglodyte said:

And you don’t find this troubling. You’re in a cult.

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I don't. Because there is nothing to corroborate this piece of garbage you posted. But you bought the pee allegations from Richard Steele, so I'm not surprised you're bothered by it.

I'll repeat the following - if Trump is proven to have been involved, if it's proven he raped and/or assaulted underage girls, I will personally vote for him to die by firing squad.

It won't happen however, because it's Russia Russia Russia again.

The difference between us is if Bill Clinton is proven guilty of the same and sentenced to death, you will be the first person to jump up and defend him. Because this is ideological for you.

You're the problem, and millions upon millions like you.
 
how awkwardly interesting...


Whoopi Goldberg stuns viewers with awkward confession about why she's named in the Epstein files​

Story by Cydney Yeates For Dailymail.Com

Whoopi Goldberg was forced to make an awkward on-air confession about why her name appears in the Epstein files during Tuesday's episode of The View.

Shortly after reality star Savannah Chrisley was controversially introduced as a guest panelist for the rest of the week, the co-host, 70, announced that her name came up in an email exchange between Jeffrey Epstein and a redacted individual.

The message centered on an attempt to find a private plane for Goldberg to jet to Monaco to attend an event hosted by Julian Lennon's charity, the White Feather Foundation.

As the email appeared on the screen, Goldberg pointedly said: 'Now, in the name of transparency… my name is in the files.'

Reading the message aloud, she continued: 'It says, "Whoopi needs a plane to get to Monaco… Julian Lennon's charity is paying for it. They don't want to charter so they're looking for private owners. Here's the info."

'And they give all the information and they're saying, "Do you want to offer your G2?"'

At this, co-host Sunny Hostin stressed that Epstein declined the offer in a separate message.

'And it looks like they said no thanks,' she pointed out.

Joy Behar added: 'So, in other words, anyone can be on this list?'

Goldberg went on to implore that she was not a friend nor a girlfriend of Epstein.

'This is my point because, when I tell you people are trying to turn me into...' she said. 'I wasn't his girlfriend. I wasn't his friend.

'I was not only too old, but it was at a time where this is just not…. You used to have to have facts before you said stuff.'

At this point, Behar, 83, delighted in saying that President Donald Trump's name has appeared in the files 38,000 times.

'I can't speak to him, but I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged,' Goldberg responded.

'People actually believe that I was with him. It's like, honey, come on. Every man I've ever been with, you've known about 'em because either The Enquirer wrote about it, people wrote about this stuff.'

Being named in the Epstein files does not assume any guilt or wrongdoing connected to Epstein's heinous child sex crimes.

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Superman said:
how awkwardly interesting...


Whoopi Goldberg stuns viewers with awkward confession about why she's named in the Epstein files​

Story by Cydney Yeates For Dailymail.Com

Whoopi Goldberg was forced to make an awkward on-air confession about why her name appears in the Epstein files during Tuesday's episode of The View.

Shortly after reality star Savannah Chrisley was controversially introduced as a guest panelist for the rest of the week, the co-host, 70, announced that her name came up in an email exchange between Jeffrey Epstein and a redacted individual.

The message centered on an attempt to find a private plane for Goldberg to jet to Monaco to attend an event hosted by Julian Lennon's charity, the White Feather Foundation.

As the email appeared on the screen, Goldberg pointedly said: 'Now, in the name of transparency… my name is in the files.'

Reading the message aloud, she continued: 'It says, "Whoopi needs a plane to get to Monaco… Julian Lennon's charity is paying for it. They don't want to charter so they're looking for private owners. Here's the info."

'And they give all the information and they're saying, "Do you want to offer your G2?"'

At this, co-host Sunny Hostin stressed that Epstein declined the offer in a separate message.

'And it looks like they said no thanks,' she pointed out.

Joy Behar added: 'So, in other words, anyone can be on this list?'

Goldberg went on to implore that she was not a friend nor a girlfriend of Epstein.

'This is my point because, when I tell you people are trying to turn me into...' she said. 'I wasn't his girlfriend. I wasn't his friend.

'I was not only too old, but it was at a time where this is just not…. You used to have to have facts before you said stuff.'

At this point, Behar, 83, delighted in saying that President Donald Trump's name has appeared in the files 38,000 times.

'I can't speak to him, but I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged,' Goldberg responded.

'People actually believe that I was with him. It's like, honey, come on. Every man I've ever been with, you've known about 'em because either The Enquirer wrote about it, people wrote about this stuff.'

Being named in the Epstein files does not assume any guilt or wrongdoing connected to Epstein's heinous child sex crimes.

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smooth brain see red, smooth brain no read so good, smooth brain looking to paste article from reddit libtard board cause they read gooder.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
I don't. Because there is nothing to corroborate this piece of garbage you posted. But you bought the pee allegations from Richard Steele, so I'm not surprised you're bothered by it.

I'll repeat the following - if Trump is proven to have been involved, if it's proven he raped and/or assaulted underage girls, I will personally vote for him to die by firing squad.

It won't happen however, because it's Russia Russia Russia again.

The difference between us is if Bill Clinton is proven guilty of the same and sentenced to death, you will be the first person to jump up and defend him. Because this is ideological for you.

You're the problem, and millions upon millions like you.
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Or it won’t happen because the DOJ is obviously involved in a cover up.

Why did they lie under oath? Why did they redact names that shouldn’t have been redacted? Why did they ignore the release deadlines? Why did they fail to release all of the files.

You were for the release of the files before you were against it. Now you’re trying to make this political despite the efforts of MTG, Massie and Mace because you’re in a cult.
 
Troglodyte said:
Or it won’t happen because the DOJ is obviously involved in a cover up.

Why did they lie under oath? Why did they redact names that shouldn’t have been redacted? Why did they ignore the release deadlines? Why did they fail to release all of the files.

You were for the release of the files before you were against it. Now you’re trying to make this political despite the efforts of MTG, Massie and Mace because you’re in a cult.
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You and your ******* questions. Answer these:

Why don't you care about Bill Clinton's many trips to pedo island?
Why don't you acknowledge that the 2020 election was clearly stolen?
Why don't you acknowledge that trannies are psycho killers and child molesters?
Why don't you admit that Russia Russia Russia was a hoax?
Why don't you admit that Covid was planned to steal the election?
Why don't you admit that the clot shot was not safe?
Why don't you admit that Supe and Tim own your sorry ***?
Why don't you admit that Biden is an invalid?
Why don't you admit that Hunter's laptop was real?
Why don't you admit that American taxpayers are getting screwed by money laundering?
Why don't you admit that you're a ******* idiot?
 
Troglodyte said:
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except, in the exact files you denounce, there's a police report where Trump called the popo on Epstein.


FBI memo: Trump called Palm Beach police chief about Epstein back in 2006​

According to a newly released FBI memo, Donald Trump flagged Jeffrey Epstein to Palm Beach Police years before denying he had any knowledge of his crimes.​

Portrait of Hannah PhillipsHannah Phillips
Palm Beach Post
Donald Trump called the Palm Beach police chief in 2006 to raise concerns about Jeffrey Epstein, according to a newly released document from the Justice Department's Epstein files.

Former Chief Michael Reiter said Trump told him "everyone" in New York knew what Epstein was doing. Trump called Epstein's behavior disgusting and urged investigators to look also into Ghislaine Maxwell, describing her as "evil," according to the FBI's summary of the interview.

Trump also said he had once been around Epstein when teenagers were present and had left immediately, according to Reiter's account.

Reiter could not immediately be reached for comment. He told the Miami Herald the call came in July 2006, shortly after Epstein's arrest on a solicitation charge in Palm Beach County. The FBI interviewed Reiter in October 2019, two months after Epstein was found dead in a Manhattan jail cell while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges.


Epstein document renews scrutiny over how much Trump knew and when​

Reiter's account of the conversation appears to contradict what Trump told reporters in July 2019 when asked whether he had any suspicions that Epstein was abusing underage girls.

"No, I had no idea," Trump said.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters she could not confirm that the 2006 call with Reiter took place. She said that if it had, it only supports Trump's claim that he expelled Epstein from Mar-a-Lago.

"What President Trump has always said is that he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his Mar-a-Lago club, because Jeffrey Epstein was a creep," Leavitt said.

That claim has been a central part of Trump's defense against questions about his relationship with Epstein. Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One in 2025, Trump said Epstein had been poaching employees from the club's spa without his knowledge.

When it happened a second time, Trump said, he told Epstein to leave.

But U.S. Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said a document he viewed in an unredacted portion of the files appeared to contradict that account. Raskin said the document was a 2009 email from Epstein to Maxwell that summarized a conversation between lawyers for the two men.

In it, Epstein's attorneys characterized Trump as saying Epstein was not a member at Mar-a-Lago but a guest, and that he had never been asked to leave. That passage had been redacted in the public release.

"I know it seems to be at odds with some things that President Trump has been saying recently about how he had kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of his club," Raskin told reporters on Feb. 9.

Who is Michael Reiter, police chief who pursued case against Epstein?​

Reiter led the Palm Beach Police Department when the Epstein investigation began in 2005. A stepmother had reported that her 14-year-old stepdaughter was molested by Epstein. That complaint led to a broader probe.

Detectives eventually identified dozens of teenage victims, many from Royal Palm Beach High school, who said they had been brought to Epstein's mansion under the guise of giving massages.

When then-state attorney Barry Krischer declined to bring serious charges against Epstein, Reiter referred the case to the FBI, prompting a federal investigation. The investigation ended with the controversial 2008 nonprosecution agreement brokered by then-U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta, who Trump appointed as his labor secretary in 2017.

Acosta resigned from the position two years following renewed scrutiny of his handling of the Epstein case.

The memo detailing Reiter's conversation with Trump is among thousands of documents released under a law requiring the Justice Department to publish its Epstein files.

Earlier releases in December included flight records placing Trump on Epstein's private plane at least eight times between 1993 and 1996. An assistant U.S. attorney in New York wrote in a January 2020 email that this was "many more times than previously has been reported."

Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year sentence for conspiring with Epstein to recruit and groom young girls, was listed as a passenger on at least four of those flights.
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IndySteel said:
You and your ******* questions. Answer these:

Why don't you care about Bill Clinton's many trips to pedo island?
Why don't you acknowledge that the 2020 election was clearly stolen?
Why don't you acknowledge that trannies are psycho killers and child molesters?
Why don't you admit that Russia Russia Russia was a hoax?
Why don't you admit that Covid was planned to steal the election?
Why don't you admit that the clot shot was not safe?
Why don't you admit that Supe and Tim own your sorry ***?
Why don't you admit that Biden is an invalid?
Why don't you admit that Hunter's laptop was real?
Why don't you admit that American taxpayers are getting screwed by money laundering?
Why don't you admit that you're a ******* idiot?
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😂 You’re unhinged.

Bill Clinton has demanded to testify to congress publicly. Now, compare and contrast that to Trump.
 
Superman said:
except, in the exact files you denounce, there's a police report where Trump called the popo on Epstein.


FBI memo: Trump called Palm Beach police chief about Epstein back in 2006​

According to a newly released FBI memo, Donald Trump flagged Jeffrey Epstein to Palm Beach Police years before denying he had any knowledge of his crimes.​

Portrait of Hannah PhillipsHannah Phillips
Palm Beach Post
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Strange. Do explain why Trump claimed to have known nothing about Epstein’s crimes in 2019.
 
Troglodyte said:
Or it won’t happen because the DOJ is obviously involved in a cover up.

Why did they lie under oath? Why did they redact names that shouldn’t have been redacted? Why did they ignore the release deadlines? Why did they fail to release all of the files.

You were for the release of the files before you were against it. Now you’re trying to make this political despite the efforts of MTG, Massie and Mace because you’re in a cult.
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And you know all this to be true.
Oh boy.

You’re unhinged.
 
Troglodyte said:
Strange. Do explain why Trump claimed to have known nothing about Epstein’s crimes in 2019.
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It’s not strange.
Trump did call the police, and according to what I’ve read he didn’t tell the truth in 2019.

Wouldn’t you lie if you had to endure 4 years of bogus demonrat schemes to try and take him down?
I could just imagine the mind numbing rhetoric coming from you people had he said he knew all about Epsteins sex business.
 
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Superman said:
how awkwardly interesting...


Whoopi Goldberg stuns viewers with awkward confession about why she's named in the Epstein files​

Story by Cydney Yeates For Dailymail.Com

Whoopi Goldberg was forced to make an awkward on-air confession about why her name appears in the Epstein files during Tuesday's episode of The View.

Shortly after reality star Savannah Chrisley was controversially introduced as a guest panelist for the rest of the week, the co-host, 70, announced that her name came up in an email exchange between Jeffrey Epstein and a redacted individual.

The message centered on an attempt to find a private plane for Goldberg to jet to Monaco to attend an event hosted by Julian Lennon's charity, the White Feather Foundation.

As the email appeared on the screen, Goldberg pointedly said: 'Now, in the name of transparency… my name is in the files.'

Reading the message aloud, she continued: 'It says, "Whoopi needs a plane to get to Monaco… Julian Lennon's charity is paying for it. They don't want to charter so they're looking for private owners. Here's the info."

'And they give all the information and they're saying, "Do you want to offer your G2?"'

At this, co-host Sunny Hostin stressed that Epstein declined the offer in a separate message.

'And it looks like they said no thanks,' she pointed out.

Joy Behar added: 'So, in other words, anyone can be on this list?'

Goldberg went on to implore that she was not a friend nor a girlfriend of Epstein.

'This is my point because, when I tell you people are trying to turn me into...' she said. 'I wasn't his girlfriend. I wasn't his friend.

'I was not only too old, but it was at a time where this is just not…. You used to have to have facts before you said stuff.'

At this point, Behar, 83, delighted in saying that President Donald Trump's name has appeared in the files 38,000 times.

'I can't speak to him, but I'm speaking about me because I'm getting dragged,' Goldberg responded.

'People actually believe that I was with him. It's like, honey, come on. Every man I've ever been with, you've known about 'em because either The Enquirer wrote about it, people wrote about this stuff.'

Being named in the Epstein files does not assume any guilt or wrongdoing connected to Epstein's heinous child sex crimes.

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Hmmm…..
Okay, so Whoopie is saying that just because someone’s name is in the Epstein Files, that doesn’t mean they did anything wrong.
Interesting take….
 
Troglodyte said:
Strange. Do explain why Trump claimed to have known nothing about Epstein’s crimes in 2019.
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was there an active investigation ongoing when Trump said that? Can you provide the time/date when that statement was made?


Executive Summary

Donald Trump has not publicly issued a clear, contemporaneous denial asserting he had no knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged sex trafficking before 2005; the public record instead shows mixed statements, contemporaneous praise in 2002, later claims of a long-ago falling out, and post‑2005 reporting and litigation that raise questions but do not produce a direct pre‑2005 denial. Contemporary quotes and timelines document familiarity and later disavowals, while books and reporting describe a Mar‑a‑Lago ban and other disputes that explain distancing without an explicit denial of prior knowledge <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Epstein-Files-A-Timeline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[2]</a> <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-epstein-timeline-1.7604277" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[3]</a>.

1. A 2002 Remark That Complicates Any Claim of Innocence
Trump’s public comments from 2002 undercut a simple narrative that he lacked awareness of Epstein’s preferences: he called Epstein a “terrific guy” who liked women “on the younger side,” a remark widely read as conocimiento of Epstein’s sexual proclivities and social circle. That contemporaneous praise is not a denial and instead establishes that Trump knew Epstein well enough to comment on his tastes in a way that invites scrutiny about what he knew and when. Journalistic timelines and reporting emphasize that the 2002 quote sits at the center of later disputes about whether Trump later attempted to distance himself from Epstein, particularly after Epstein faced allegations and legal action <a href="https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/articl...rtment-and-fbi-for-access-to-epstein-records/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[4]</a> <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Epstein-Files-A-Timeline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[1]</a> <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tim...relationship-trump-falling/story?id=124241038" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[5]</a>. The quote therefore functions as affirmative evidence of familiarity rather than as a counterfactual denial.
2. Public Statements About a Falling Out — No Explicit Denial
In later years Trump has framed his relationship with Epstein as having ended long before Epstein’s 2008 conviction and his 2019 arrest, saying he hadn’t spoken to Epstein in “15 years” and citing disputes over staff and property at Mar‑a‑Lago. Those statements are distancing claims about ongoing contact, not direct denials of knowledge about alleged trafficking prior to 2005. Reporting and timelines document different explanations for the fallout — a real estate dispute in 2004 or an incident involving a staffer’s daughter — but none of these accounts record Trump explicitly stating, before 2005, “I was unaware of Epstein’s alleged sexual exploitation.” The available record therefore shows non‑contact claims rather than affirmative denials about knowledge of misconduct <a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-epstein-timeline-1.7604277" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[3]</a> <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...and-epstein-really-know-each-other-a-timeline" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[6]</a> <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tim...relationship-trump-falling/story?id=124241038" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">[5]</a>.
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There's more in the link you won't click, but the Executive Summary is there.
 
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