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Pickens being traded to Dallas?

TDX27 said:
Double team DK and stack the box. Throw away from the middle of the field. I see the same nonsense as last year. Dulac doesn't think they will bring anyone else in for now.

I just can't get over how, 2 years in a row, they just make a knee-jerk reaction and have no backup plan. This year is worse as we have no QB1.

Just play Rudolph or Howard with no WR's to throw to and let the team finally fall below 500. I see little chance they get above 500 even if Rodgers signs. They absolutely need to bring in a WR2 prior to camp; otherwise, he will be getting on a moving train, and we all know Tomlin doesn't let those kinds of players play very much.
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Kaleb faced stacked boxes all year last year, if he gets a crease he’s hitting it, unlike Najee. DK is better than Pickens, let’s hope Austin’s arc continues upward and Wilson is a contributor.

They’re trying to build the Titans’ 2019/20 offense, for better or worse.
 
All in all its addition by subtaction, but obviously needed done pre draft. Though looking at the third round receivers drafting btw Dallas and Pittsburgh.....not sure you could have filled the hole legitimately.
 
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WindyCitySteel said:
Not so sure they’re acquiring another WR, they signed Woods, Austin improved last year, and maybe they’re high on Roman Wilson.

Plus, guessing they didn’t draft Kaleb Johnson, a perfect fit for an Arthur Smith offense, just to go 4-wide and fling the ball all over the field.
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The whole unit is likely to play better without the stress of pickens. No reason to jump of the cliff but it's just another "eye-roller" from the Tomlin era debacle.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Is it BS? Tomlin bemoaned the turnovers that cost them a playoff berth down the stretch in 2018 and then massively over corrected. Since then, two hand-picked OCs who never worked as an OC before or after Pittsburgh and the ultra conservative Smith, leading to a locked down offense that largely avoids the middle of the field.

https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pittsburgh-steelers-insider-shares-strange-mike-tomlin-belief
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Yes. His QB blew out an elbow in game 2 of 2019. Before that, he threw the ball 62 times over not quite six quarters in the first two games of 2019. It didn't have a damn thing to do with the turnovers of 2018. It had to do with loss of talent over that time. I ask this question all the time, and never get much back. Would you have thrown the ball all over the yard with Mitch Trubisky, a younger Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett etc.? Now, Tomlin is absolutely partly responsible for the dearth of talent, but he will open things up when he has the talent, as 2014-2018 attest.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Banking on an aging Woods and Wilson, who has done absolutely zero, is flawed strategy to improving the receiver room.

We brought in a guy that has less talent than Pickens as our 1 and luckily are only having to replace VJ production (which was abysmal) so they are right back where they started last season…almost
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On top of it all the paid top 3 WR money to a guy that wasn't even the #1 in Seattle. Pickens was more productive and playing for peanuts.
Not a DK hater just stating the FACT that no WR in history has gotten more money for less production.
F*** Kahn
 
Superman said:
IMO, we have a QB deficiency. I'd guess one way to overcome that is to have some supreme talent at WR to mask that. Pickens and Metcalf - or Metcalf and Pickens - would at the very least keep safeties off the LOS. They can also catch the ball, one major requirement for the WR position. And neither run backwards. So, they have hands and their ability would keep that extra man or men out of the box. Which can open up the run game, which can make it easier on the QB.

The question shouldn't be "does Pickens make us a playoff favorite". It should be "can we even get to the playoffs with Rudolph?"

Just for hypotheticals... let's say Howard takes the QB reins and establishes rapport with both WRs. Then next season he makes a bigger jump. We're ahead of the curve then. By not giving any QB all the weapons you can, and we did have some weapons yesterday, you're hamstringing him before the first snap.
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All sounds good, except that WR you're talking about only gives full effort on plays coming his way, so he's not backing anyone off the LOS half assing it the way he does, that doesn't help any QB. Give me a WR that gives max effort every play over a self centered guy that only plays when he wants to.
The HC won't allow the offense to be opened up to scare anyone anyways, I guess that's the worst part of all of this, we could have Moss and Owens in their prime and we still wouldn't open the damn offense up.
 
Sarge said:
Absolutely. This trade makes acquiring and signing Metcalf only marginally less stupid than trading Pickens after acquiring Metcalf. Whatever. They aren’t contenders either way, but keeping Pickens at least makes it seem like they are trying
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Trying to what, keeping a mental midget cry baby at WR that only plays when he wants to? They just paid DK big money to be #1, does anyone really think this wasn't going to be a major issue with Pickens? It would've been 24/7 drama with this guy.
 
jitter77 said:
I would take dj chark

As for the Pickens trade I think it is ridiculous. I get he has some issues, but he was our only offensive playmaker and we got him help. Why spend $30mil on a WR of you planned to trade Pickens. We are now $30 million in the hole and no better off. I would argue Pickens was as good or near as good as Metcalf. Now we have no #2 a #1 who doesn't know the offense and a big hole at QB. Any of Rodgers buddies are over the hill. Lazard was not a bad wr, but he was more like a high end #3. Now he might not even be that.
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DK Metcalf 2024 nfl ranks
Tied for 39th receptions
Tied for 25th in yards
Tied for 50th in TD
40th in AVG TGT

He deserves top 4 NFL WR Salary with those numbers?:ROFLMAO:
 
bigben said:
On top of it all the paid top 3 WR money to a guy that wasn't even the #1 in Seattle. Pickens was more productive and playing for peanuts.
Not a DK hater just stating the FACT that no WR in history has gotten more money for less production.
F*** Kahn
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I'm not sure I'd go that far:
The past 3 seasons
DK-226 catches-3154 yards-19TD's
GP-174 catches-2841 ayrds-12TD's

I wasn't for paying any WR big money until we thought we had our QB though.
 
DesertSteel said:
A 3rd is what they got for AB. Y'all think GP was better than AB?
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What did we get for Claypool? Are you saying he was better than AB?🤔
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Kaleb faced stacked boxes all year last year, if he gets a crease he’s hitting it, unlike Najee. DK is better than Pickens, let’s hope Austin’s arc continues upward and Wilson is a contributor.

They’re trying to build the Titans’ 2019/20 offense, for better or worse.
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I agree with your points..
Although, I wasn’t a Wilson fan when they chose to use a top 100 pick for him in 2024… and then after last years, whatever that was..and I’m even less of a fan of Roman now..
If he wasn’t selected at 84, I believe he wouldn’t even make the squad this year.
 
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diver said:
Yes. His QB blew out an elbow in game 2 of 2019. Before that, he threw the ball 62 times over not quite six quarters in the first two games of 2019. It didn't have a damn thing to do with the turnovers of 2018. It had to do with loss of talent over that time. I ask this question all the time, and never get much back. Would you have thrown the ball all over the yard with Mitch Trubisky, a younger Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett etc.? Now, Tomlin is absolutely partly responsible for the dearth of talent, but he will open things up when he has the talent, as 2014-2018 attest.
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2019 is understandable, but the other years? Tomlin lives in paralyzing fear of turnovers, the entire offense is designed to hide from them.
 
jitter77 said:
As for the Pickens trade I think it is ridiculous. I get he has some issues, but he was our only offensive playmaker and we got him help. Why spend $30mil on a WR of you planned to trade Pickens. We are now $30 million in the hole and no better off.
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Nah, the Steelers didn’t get him some help, they got his replacement. For what they got in return, I think they must have been very intent on getting rid of him. They are better off to the extent that Metcalf is locked up beyond this year and arguably a more consistent player but yeah, they’re not going to get a Pickens like talent to fill the new hole in the roster.
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Did people REALLY think they were going to pay him big $$$$? Took a lot of heat suggesting they trade him instead.

I guess this is as good as place as any for the apology line to start.

Who wants to go first?
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This. Tomlin Fan Club President @SteelerInLebanon told anyone who suggested Pickens be traded they were dumb and falling into rumors for saying he was on the trade block and Pickens would have a peachy keen attitude this year playing on the last year of his rookie contract. He will deflect and make excuses like a punk but who cares

Idiot Tomlin does the trade after the draft so we now have a huge probably unrepairable hole in the WR room this year, bestest coach ever
 
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WindyCitySteel said:
Did people REALLY think they were going to pay him big $$$$? Took a lot of heat suggesting they trade him instead.

I guess this is as good as place as any for the apology line to start.

Who wants to go first?
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Ya took a lot of heat did ya? Show us the heat ya took. Apologies? What a ******* p ussy
 
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